Game of Thrones New Season (possible spoilers)

[Cyradis]

Sooo... I can't be the only GoT fan on this forum (books or show). 

 

Last night's episode I found generally satisfying. Opening was golden. Even the erm... soupy scene. That was gross and so well done. Also love Jaime's disgust with his sister.

 

Biggest surprise? The lack of dead Lannister soldiers. 

 

*open discussion* 

Edited July 19, 2017 by Cyradis
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[Dilvish the Deliverer]

Uhm, yes, it opened with a bang.  Everything else was pretty much exposition and setup for the rest of the season.  And that's all I'll because spoilers.

[Smokestack]

It was good. But the episode felt really fast. It was the normal length so I guess that means I was really into it and didn't notice the time passing. Past season had episodes devoted to single characters of plot lines. This episode we kind of got 5 minutes of 12 different ones. Which is good cause it sets up who is doing what... But it left me a little unsatisfied having only 5 minutes of my favorites. The Sam montage was pretty gross... but fun.

[Cyradis]

I agree that it was fast. 

 

The montage was a special kind of disgusting. It had my group nearly puking at the couch. The quest to become a wizard isn't an easy one.

[SamuraiJack]

I was pretty thrilled with the opening.. not entirely shocked at the lack of dead Lannister soldiers.. You can really see where there is a struggle to not see them as evil people and just guys with families following orders.. 

 

nice seeing Mr Sheeran make his appearance.. 

[Lady Tam]

I was very pleased, we also watched the re-run on Monday to re-analyze things. I like how everything was set up for the rest of season. I am curious to see how the various 'relationships' play out.

[hungerfan]

On 7/17/2017 at 11:26 AM, Cyradis said:

Biggest surprise? The lack of dead Lannister soldiers. 

 

 

We never saw her leave.  Who knows...next week they show her riding off and there are a few dead guys around the campfire.

 

I found the episode overall to be so-so for such a long wait.  Hoping next week it picks up fast since we have...oh 6 episodes left.

[Cyradis]

46 minutes ago, hungerfan said:

 

We never saw her leave.  Who knows...next week they show her riding off and there are a few dead guys around the campfire.

 

I found the episode overall to be so-so for such a long wait.  Hoping next week it picks up fast since we have...oh 6 episodes left.

 

Alternatively, she nat20's a diplomacy check and convinces the nice soldiers to defect. 

 

I'm just waiting for Jaime to kill Cersei and for Arya to be pissed that she didn't get to!

[hungerfan]

I want to see him kill her and then Arya pulls off her mask and shrinks back down to size right before our eyes. :)

[Beagle]

I'm still rooting for the Baratheons

[Cyradis]

If Brienne didn't burn Stannis you may get your wish - as a Baratheon white walker. 

[NyarlaBcn]

I also liked the episode overall. It did feel fast to me too... with so many open fronts to reconnect with. 

Loved to see Dragonstone in its entire glory; can't remember if we seen it so clearly, the outsides I mean. If so, I re-loved it. 

 

What I didn't liked its not this particular episode's fault. It's now so neatly disposed: the Vipers on Dorne without any real Martell, all the Tyrells dead except Olenna and both houses with Daenerys; The North (mainly the remaining Stark, the freepeople and the people from the Valley; treason here probably on the near future) with Jon, and most of the Greyjoys with Cersei apparently. Three Kings, three fronts, plus Walkers. The show managed the Tyrells and the Martells very simplisticly. 

I'm also not sure about the basis of Cersei's power. She sure controls King's landing; with the city guard, maybe some Lannisters. But as I understood, Casterly Rock was with her uncle, and I don't think she or Jaime control the full extent of Lannister's power. So her position seems to be really weak... 

 

[Cyradis]

I think Jaime understands that they are tactically doomed. He tried to warn Cersei. 

 

We've only gotten a few past glimpses of Dragonstone, from before Stannis left there. None from outside though. That map table figures prominently in some of those scenes inside the keep. 

 

Casterly Rock would be undefended via books - Varys has Ser Kevin killed, thus no uncle there. You are right that things are lining up more. In books, Tyrells and Lannisters would still have heirs. Myrcella is maimed but alive, and Olenna has another grandson who is at Highgarden. He was crippled by a horse falling on him or somesuch, but would be able to keep the family going. Show? WHACK. Out with any extras. 

 

 

[NyarlaBcn]

True. And If I remember it right, Loras is still alive in the books isn't it? burned from boiling oil on the siege of Dragonstone. We haven't seen him since... maybe third book? But he is still alive. Or does he appear in the forth? honestly, it has been so long since I read it... 

Theon (on the show) was another disappointment. I have my theory that he will be the future leader of the Greyjoys; his soul is shattered, his body too: but he is still not dead, his true nature is sleeping in the depths. Someday he will awaken, purified by the sea, the salt and the wind, his former weakness consumed, nothing left but strenght and determination. A true Greyjoy. 

 

So, on some fronts the show disappointed me; I guess the books will go on a similar direction with some stuff (Baelor's sept, the mountain, Cersei's crowned) but not on many others, and I hope the Martells and the Tyrells are part of the divergences. 

 

 

[Guindyloo]

So from a fan of the show who is a couple of seasons behind now but planning on catching up, could y'all try to put your comments about who's dead and not dead and whatnot behind spoiler tags? Your comments in here show up on the main page. Thank you!