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12 minutes ago, Bane Of Humanity said:

I dont think he lost detail, but I do think he is scale got messed up.  His tail is too small and his wings are too big. and his feet a alittle off/

I agree. Even from the earliest pics we saw of Argent, there just wasn’t a lot of detail there.

I also agree about how shrinking his size has appeared to affect his proportions.

 

Still an impressively sized dragon and I’m glad to have it in my collection.

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3 minutes ago, Darsc Zacal said:

I agree. Even from the earliest pics we saw of Argent, there just wasn’t a lot of detail there.

I also agree about how shrinking his size has appeared to affect his proportions.

 

Still an impressively sized dragon and I’m glad to have it in my collection.

Well he wasn't even finished then.  I also think its a byproduct of being sculpted electronically.  However, I can understand why they would use a 3d sculpt considering how much green stuff Maal took.

When I compare him to Truakzul or whatever.. You can see how that dragon is all proportionate.

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17 minutes ago, Sirithiliel said:

 

either he lost detail, or he's just a very 'soft' dragon when he was sculpted and printed. HIs wings, his claws, there is very little there. Painting his wings is going to be a bother because it's just big stretches of featureless plastic

 

though this is why julie guthrie will always be my favorite dragon sculptor

 

I've looked for photos of the finished product (had seen it only on the KS campaign), I think it does still look good, yet maybe a bit... chubby. Which it could be cool if that was the idea, but I think it's just a collateral of the resizing. I'll buy it sooner or later though, it's one of my regrets this KS to not have pledged for it.

Too big wings seem to be  a brand, btw; IMO the rulers of hell have that issue too. It doesn't look bad on them, it's just a bit too big. 

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24 minutes ago, Sirithiliel said:

 

either he lost detail, or he's just a very 'soft' dragon when he was sculpted and printed. HIs wings, his claws, there is very little there. Painting his wings is going to be a bother because it's just big stretches of featureless plastic

 

though this is why julie guthrie will always be my favorite dragon sculptor

It would be interesting to hear the tale of how this dragon was designed and why he seems relatively soft and lacking in detail.  Julie is a fantastic dragon sculptor (among other things she sculpts fantastically), but she's only one sculptor.  The other sculptors should get a shot, too.

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Just now, Serenity said:

It would be interesting to hear the tale of how this dragon was designed and why he seems relatively soft and lacking in detail.  Julie is a fantastic dragon sculptor (among other things she sculpts fantastically), but she's only one sculptor.  The other sculptors should get a shot, too.

 

and they do, there are plenty of dragons not sculpted by her

 

she just does them best. Best detail, best scale work, best personality in their faces, best proportions with real muscle detail and actual functioning limbs (some of the older dragons especially have noodle limbs or broken joints and bother me)

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Gene van Horne did Argent, and he was working his butt off on that one. Considering the rather obvious reference, and the amount of detail that person does on dragon anatomy, I am content with all the proportions. Argent is well... argent (silver). He has very solid silver dragon proportions. I think Todd Lockwood pretty much wrote the book on dragon anatomy for that style. Silvers do have absurdly large wings. Just means we'll have to get creative with painting them! 

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1 hour ago, Bane Of Humanity said:

Well he wasn't even finished then.  I also think its a byproduct of being sculpted electronically.  However, I can understand why they would use a 3d sculpt considering how much green stuff Maal took.

When I compare him to Truakzul or whatever.. You can see how that dragon is all proportionate.

Why do people keep thinking it has anything to do with being 3d printed.  Gf9, mierce, gw all 3d print high quality resin masters on commercial printers and they have great detail.  

 

I think issue is that they are meant to be done in a type of pvc plastic in as few parts as possible, which limits them compared to high quality resin models or many part gw plastic kits.

 

I'm doing a borys dragon of tyr model. Head neck segments torso legs arms all 3d printed on a form 2.  The head has much finer details than on the bones models. But just the head cost me around $100.  

 

Sanjay

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2 minutes ago, Green Eyed Monster said:

Argent means Silver

Look it up.

GEM


I think it was a reference to him being an obvious stand-in for Bahamut, the Platinum Patron of Good Dragons in most Dungeons & Dragons settings.

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1 hour ago, Sirithiliel said:

 

and they do, there are plenty of dragons not sculpted by her

 

she just does them best. Best detail, best scale work, best personality in their faces, best proportions with real muscle detail and actual functioning limbs (some of the older dragons especially have noodle limbs or broken joints and bother me)

I'd like to see reaper expand out to other sculptors but not sure if cost, time, or needed material limits the ones I'd use.

 

17 minutes ago, Lidless Eye said:


I think it was a reference to him being an obvious stand-in for Bahamut, the Platinum Patron of Good Dragons in most Dungeons & Dragons settings.

 

20 minutes ago, Green Eyed Monster said:

Argent means Silver

Look it up.

GEM

Yes it means silver but considering their version of tiamat came out the prior campaign it makes more sense that this was to be their bahamut.

 

1 hour ago, Bane Of Humanity said:

I wonder if Argents wings could be magnetized...

Yes, should be doable with rare earth magnets. I'd imagine 2 magnets and good chunk metal on the other side.

 

Sanjay

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21 minutes ago, Lidless Eye said:


I think it was a reference to him being an obvious stand-in for Bahamut, the Platinum Patron of Good Dragons in most Dungeons & Dragons settings.

 

Look familiar? The head is a bit different, but the wings and the pose? It is a spine frill away from this guy (which would be a very fun conversion, imo)

 

Image result for d&d 3.5 silver dragon

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argent is very chunky and his legs have weird bulges, but since the dragon i'm making him into is a senile ancient red, it's okay if he's a bit on the thick side with odd proportions 

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1 hour ago, Serenity said:

It would be interesting to hear the tale of how this dragon was designed and why he seems relatively soft and lacking in detail.  Julie is a fantastic dragon sculptor (among other things she sculpts fantastically), but she's only one sculptor.  The other sculptors should get a shot, too.

 

Julie's a fantastic sculptor, especially with dragons, and so are many other sculptors when it comes to dragons. I don't think it's a matter of Reaper saying, "ok we need a dragon, it automatically goes to Julie." I think it's more a case of "ok, we want to to an epic dragon, this is the timetable we have to complete it before we need it molded, who can do it?" I think it then becomes a matter of who has experience and really excels at that type of project.

 

Look at Dave Summers' work for Dark Sword. Several of their dragons are done by him, as well as a vast majority of their Critter Kingdom line. He's just really suited to critter types.

 

I think GvH did a great job on Argent.

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