completed Reaper Bones 4: Enthusiasm and Commentary Thread

[dice4hire]

I am hoping the delay means a meatier update, perhaps with more products in the PM. 

[redambrosia]

I'm sure everything will be fine. Delays happen, but that doesn't mean we won't get our toys

[Crowley]

5 hours ago, redambrosia said:

I'm sure everything will be fine. Delays happen, but that doesn't mean we won't get our toys

Maybe a new cat dragon? A mom cat dragon to go with the 12 days version?

 

Either way, looking forward to the update, whenever it posts... (Soon?)

[Cyradis]

They also have been working up kinda a triple-special for December. They have Ametrine Earthlyte for all of December boxes, the stockings, and then the 12 Days event to organize. And they have to do that while keeping stock of the holiday season only figures. 

[Disciple of Sakura]

They've also had half a month since Reaper Bryan announced he would be leaving, and, at least according to that announcement, he hasn't left yet. He may be having to pass along or train someone else in how he does things, but putting together an update as a demonstration would be a good way to ensure the work is being done and teaching someone what the task entails. That they were waiting until Monday to even have a meeting about it, and still didn't get it out, despite knowing for ages that this was on the docket of things to be done, feels a little poorly planned. If the 12 Days event, the Stockings, the 25th Anniversary item (which is something they've been doing all year) were all things Reaper Bryan was doing instead of someone else, then there were way too many projects on only one person's shoulders.

 

Again, stuff happens, but this all just feels really slapdash, and I really hope that things improve soon. It's not a good look for Reaper in the Bones IV community. They generated some undeserved ill will during Bones 3's long delay, and they're already getting delays and poor communication this early in the post-KS period. I expect better communication from Reaper because they've had remarkable communication in the past, and so I'm disappointed in this. Reaper Bryan apparently has some enormous shoes to fill if his impending departure in almost a month causes this severe a delay in what should have been a routine and, honestly, already planned update. They had plenty of time to put something together, and it seems like they waited until past the last minute based on lack of communication. From Dec 1st, we were told that all updates would stay on schedule. When someone asked if that included the one due that day, we got radio silence. Then on the 4th, we were told it'd go up later that day barring unforeseen events. Now it's Tuesday. Noone from Reaper has really commented in the Kickstarter itself, and we're at the point where it continues to look very bad.

 

I'm still a backer, and it's not like I'm howling that I want my money back or something, but this is as much about communication as anything at this point. We need it to be better, and more timely in the coming months.

[TaleSpinner]

So, my boys are suddenly getting into Starfinder. Guess I may be adding the Chronoscope expansion afterall.

[Smokestack]

46 minutes ago, TaleSpinner said:

So, my boys are suddenly getting into Starfinder. Guess I may be adding the Chronoscope expansion afterall.

 

Yeah my gaming group is scheduled to start Starfinder next month.  Not sold on the Chronoscope set yet though.

[Crowley]

15 minutes ago, Smokestack said:

 

Yeah my gaming group is scheduled to start Starfinder next month.  Not sold on the Chronoscope set yet though.

Definitely the weakest of the expansions, but still enough that I couldn't say no. 

 

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[Harrek]

Does being a week or so late on an update that is only going to (possibly) show you some more models and say all is well really constitute being so upset?  Geez, you know full well that nothing is really going to happen until much farther in the future due to production times.  So why get yourself and everyone else all upset over nothing?!?  Also give them a chance to transition from the loss of a long time key employee and face on all their KS projects.  Also keep in mind that crafting these updates is time consuming, tedious, and has to be done correctly.  Because people are going to nit pick them all apart and read all kinds of incorrect details out of it (and perhaps do so no matter what they write).  So getting it word smithed correctly is important.  Also keep in mind Reaper does not have an army of oompa loompas working there who can do this.  So many people DO shoulder many different tasks.

 

In short, keep calm, this is hardly a time to rant about anything at all.

[Cyradis]

If it gets to Spring 2019 without knowing much... we can worry. Right now is so early on that it isn't worth tweaking yet. 

[Smokestack]

That said, I am hoping for the remaining Sophie's friend to be shown. Models with Rapiers are rare. Will get a bunch of these.

Also hope there will be some cool new power ups.

[Doug Sundseth]

4 minutes ago, Harrek said:

Does being a week or so late on an update that is only going to (possibly) show you some more models and say all is well really constitute being so upset?  Geez, you know full well that nothing is really going to happen until much farther in the future due to production times.  So why get yourself and everyone else all upset over nothing?!?  Also give them a chance to transition from the loss of a long time key employee and face on all their KS projects.  Also keep in mind that crafting these updates is time consuming, tedious, and has to be done correctly.  Because people are going to nit pick them all apart and read all kinds of incorrect details out of it (and perhaps do so no matter what they write).  So getting it word smithed correctly is important.  Also keep in mind Reaper does not have an army of oompa loompas working there who can do this.  So many people DO shoulder many different tasks.

 

In short, keep calm, this is hardly a time to rant about anything at all.

 

• Haven't seen any rants here. (I can't speak for the KS Project comments, because that's a swamp that I refuse to enter.) A few questions followed by comments about the possible reaction to poor communication based on previous-project history seem a reasonable response.
• Reaper has had a month since the last update and the timing is not a surprise. Communication takes time, but that's just a part of running a KS project.
• Meta-rants about complaints about communication seem not especially more useful than the complaints to me.

NB: This is not a rant, it's a meta-meta-rant. That's completely different. 

[Kro]

I'm not sure if what is at the moment two business days constitutes a "severe delay".  Echoing Harrek and Cyradis, I don't think delays on updates are much to worry about at this stage in the game. With three promotions, presumably higher volume of sales that go with the promotions and the approaching holidays in general, and a transition of a longstanding integral cog in the machine I'm more than willing to give them some leeway.

 

It would have been nice to for them to have posted a small canned message at the end of the day Friday saying the update would be delayed a little, and likely out the following week.

[NecroMancer]

8 minutes ago, Kro said:

It would have been nice to for them to have posted a small canned message at the end of the day Friday saying the update would be delayed a little, and likely out the following week.

 

I think this is why so many people are concerned.  I think the near silence from Reaper has caused a stir.

 

Myself, like most everyone else am willing to give them some time to figure it all out and understand that updates can be tricky and really don't matter that much.  They are fun and nice to have but I won't worry till Spring'19 like @Cyradis!

[TripleH]

Update is out.