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On 7/30/2021 at 12:36 AM, Peacemonger said:

-Fairytale-themed set for games that have more of a lighter genre. Can dig into some nursery-rhyme-inspired figures, and other light-hearted, whimsical creatures and heroes.

 

On 8/2/2021 at 1:24 PM, icestormganon said:

I really liked the Dragonfolk and Catfolk minis out of Bones 5.  I have plenty of options from Reaper for Humans, Elves, and Dwarves, not so much for other races, and those lines really helped out.  I feel like Hellborn are pretty limited right now, so a new grouping of them would be nice.  Would also like to see more Wildfolk.  More Feywild races would be nice too, since that book is coming out and I have had my players express interest with those races.

 

On 8/3/2021 at 11:29 AM, YronimosW said:

I like the sound of the carnival performers mentioned by others.  Weirdly-masked carnival-goers sound like fun for conversion projects, too.  (I'd use them as villains in a gothic-horror themed campaign!)

 

On 8/6/2021 at 6:21 PM, ksbsnowowl said:

Yes, please! A Seelie and Unseelie Courts expansion, and some Wild Hunt figures would be amazing. 


I feel like a Fey/Fairy tale set would go over really well.  There's a lot of demand for it right now. Especially with the upcoming D&D book.  Could go a Dark Depths/ Brinewind approach with one set being more whimsical and fairy-tale and another being more woodsy celtic/fey.

Also reiterating all the demand for more cultural expansions.  Seems Norse is the most popular, but I'm still holding out for either Egyptian or Arabian expansion as well.

22 hours ago, Chris Palmer said:

Was just looking back and saw this thread was started back in 2017 by Ladystorm.  Do we know if anyone from Reaper is actually officially following it anymore?

I have also been wondering if anyone actually checks this anymore.

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@MoonglowMinis @Chris Palmer

 

I believe this is still followed by @Reaper_Jon and others.. it gets referenced quite often on other social media platforms.. although Ladystorm would usually crate a new one after a Bones KS.. so that they were wading through new ideas...

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5 hours ago, Reaper_Jon said:

I am here, and i check through this and other socials as well and compile them and bring them to Ron. 


Here, Jon, let me help you compile that list. 
 

1. Norse expansion

2. fey expansion

3. Viking Longship encounter set

4. Krass Omenthrall (sku: 03160)

5. Viking expansion

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10. Norse-themed expansion

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15. a Viking longship

...

 

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Looking at Sophies Revenge, and now I want a ship about half her size. 

A nice sloop, about  15-18" long.  Something along the lines of this pic, only with a planked, but otherwise smooth hull.  Make it generic enough that it could work for anything from Fantasy up through Pulp and even modern, just by swapping out a few small pieces like cleats w/ block & tackle vs modern winches.  Make the cabin portion a "lid", so you could access the interior. 

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On 9/5/2017 at 6:46 PM, Maredudd said:

Roderick Ambermead and Glitter.

 

The current sculpt is good, but a new, more kinetic, sculpt would be better.

 

Or both even . . . 

 

And I'm not familiar with the characters, but if there's another Fan Favorites expansion, if someone would be kind enough to grant this gentleman's humble request, that would be fantastic - I don't think I know of a more dedicated and patient fan of Reaper's characters :) 

 

 

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The wooly rhino, in Bones 

Orangutan

Chimps

Monkeys

+1 vote for a norse or cold set 

+1 vote for a desert or Egyptian set 

A giant construct with a goblin or gnome pilot 

Barrel golems/mini shipwreck golems 

Orc pirates 

Elf pirates 

Skeletal/cursed conquistadors 

Afro futurist soldiers m and f 

Half orc or hobgoblin mercenaries 

Orcs with muskets 

 

 

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On 8/17/2021 at 7:49 PM, Staffan said:

I'm not sure this is the right thread for it, but it was mentioned some time ago that there likely won't be Chronoscope expansions in future Bones kickstarters, because they're always the worst sellers by a large margin.

 

I think the issue is that they do not feel like a cohesive whole. Look at the one in Bones V: there's one part that's a bunch of pulp/steampunk characters, another part that's redneck zombie horror, and a third that's post-apocalypse scavengers/mutants/robots (plus Dejah Thoris). I might have been interested in one of those thirds, but when 2/3 of the expansion feels irrelevant to me it gets real easy to prioritize buying other things instead. By contrast, something like the Greek Odyssey expansion is more all-or-nothing – either I'll have use of most of it, or none of it.

 

I think these would have worked better as different mini-expansions, similar to the Yokai of Okura, or the Townsfolk. I would probably have paid $20 or $25 for just the Pulp/Steampunk characters, but $50 for those plus a bunch of minis I'm highly unlikely to use is just too much.

 

TL;DR: Keep doing Chronoscope minis, but in smaller packages than a full $50-expansion.

I wholeheartedly agree.  I really wanted to see some Chronoscape minis, and would have supported that pack but when it was revealed, it felt almost... Well, kind of like it were a casserole made from leftovers and scraps.  The other expansions had some pretty clear cut inspirations and/or themes to them, while Chronoscape did not other than "it fits in the line", so it was rather difficult to even get it to make it through my initial sorting of what I wanted to get. 

 

Smaller $15-25 thoroughly themed packs would do a lot better in my opinion, because it's a lot easier to go "okay, this is about killer robots, and that ones zombie apocalypse, with a third one being '30's film noire... 

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Maybe the Chronoscope discussion might best be split off as a separate topic, but I, for one, hope that rumors of the Chronoscope Bones expansions' demise are exaggerated - I love that product line, and get the expansion sets every time!

 

Regarding the boats, things like ship decks, cabins, and so on are pretty easy to scratch-build from model railroading styrene sheets and rods.  The ship hulls, and items like anchors, masts, and railings, are a bit more difficult to scratch-build.  I wonder if there's a market for just generic ship hulls of various sizes that we can scratch-build our own decks, cabins, and stuff onto, so that modelers can make their own custom ships in different styles?  Just a thought there, but seems like a generic hull could be as easily converted into a schooner, or junk, or steamship, or ironclad, or spelljammer, or whatever else we can imagine.....  (The biggest hurdle that occurs to me first is that this doesn't fit in with Reaper's table-ready philosophy for Bones figures, but it seems to me that these big multi-part models like the Sophie's Revenge are a very different story from the regular minis!)

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, WhiteWulfe said:

I wholeheartedly agree.  I really wanted to see some Chronoscape minis, and would have supported that pack but when it was revealed, it felt almost... Well, kind of like it were a casserole made from leftovers and scraps.  The other expansions had some pretty clear cut inspirations and/or themes to them, while Chronoscape did not other than "it fits in the line", so it was rather difficult to even get it to make it through my initial sorting of what I wanted to get. 

 

Smaller $15-25 thoroughly themed packs would do a lot better in my opinion, because it's a lot easier to go "okay, this is about killer robots, and that ones zombie apocalypse, with a third one being '30's film noire... 

 

This is absolutely the way to go - between the minis that I already have in metal (about ten), the ones I was utterly less than interested in (anything zombie... - another nine), and the ones I really can't easily adapt to much besides their own genre (the rednecks, the WWII soldier, much of the Steampunk stuff) - there was really only a little bit I was actually actively interested in in this go-round (Deja-Vu Thoris,  the Whatevers from Beyond Space and Time, and the robots) - and they just didn't add up to the cost, and hassle of dealing with the rest - even if the hassle was just "dump it all in the next Box O Goodwill")

 

If this had been, say four expansion sets - Steampunk Adventures (self-explanatory), Apocalypse with Zombies (survivors, mutants, and zombies), Horrors From Beyond (Many-Angled Ones, and other non-Euclidian horrors), and Space Madness (Robots and space adventurers and such - oh my!) - each about $15 bucks, and suitably filled out where necessary to reach that value - I'd have likely been in for the latter two - non-euclidian horrors can be slotted into almost any genre with the right work, and I'm presently working on an SF campaign (so the last one would be a no-brainer) - and it removes the zombies from the equation (which are a near-automatic anti-sell for me, personally - if nothing else, I have lots of zombies from previous Bones Kickstarters at this point...).

 

(previously, the first KS had some IMEF, NOVA, and random Chronoscope minis mixed in with the core set - some of which were resculpted/mastered for KS5. KS2 started the Expansion system, and had a Chronoscope pack that was about 40% terrain pieces, a 40% Kulathi, Greys and Bathalians, and a smattering of IMEF. KS3 didn't have an official "Chronoscope" Expansion - but did have a Mythos expansion with a bunch of early 21st century adventurers, Mythos monsters, and terrain. KS4 had a slight mixed-bag approach, but was fairly sci-fi centric - robots and aliens and giant(ish) robots and the like, and was good value (for me - except that I already had almost half of it in metal).)

 

I think unfortunately, just because of the nature of the Chronoscope line, it doesn't lend itself well to coherent Expansions - reprints-in-plastic run into the problem that the line isn't very large, compared to the fantasy lines, and that increases the chances that people already have significant numbers of the minis in question in metal (which can be fine, if they're grunts - not so great if they're PC types), and the "genre" is so diffuse ("anything that isn't fantasy" is a pretty broad spectrum) that it can make it hard to support value in a $50 expansion, unless focused and mostly new sculpts.

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I don't think it's impossible to do a full Chronoscope expansion that is somewhat cohesive, there is some overlap in the genres that can be taken advantage of - for example, there's some cross-over between Cthulhu Mythos, Victorian/Gothic, Weird West, some Steampunk, and Pulp/Noir miniatures, compared to modern, post-apocalyptic, futuristic sci-fi, pulp sci-fi, and cyberpunk. 

 

There are some things that can be done to attract some interest from the "fantasy only" backers and customers, too:  Mythos and Gothic horror monsters can quite readily find their uses with fantasy gamers, for example, and some sci-fi monsters, mutants, aliens, and robots ("war-forged") can find a place in fantasy as well.  Some scenic and scatter terrain could be included in Chronoscope expansions as well:  things like tables, chairs, bar/tavern/saloon sets, barrels and crates, and that sort of thing fit just as well with Chronoscope as they do with fantasy, for example - altars and standing stones and the like fit in just as well with Mythos stuff as they do with fantasy, too.  With a little creativity, a lot of townsfolk and Dreadmere-style swamp adventurers (both apparently popular enough with fantasy gamers) could easily be modeled ambiguously as both fantasy and pulp or Weird West models, for example.   Sweeten the Chronoscope pot for fantasy gamers by including more fantasy-friendly items, and I have a feeling fantasy gamers will have a harder time saying "no" to them!

 

Reaper might also try peppering a few Chronoscope figures back into the Core Sets of future Kickstarters.

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They did that in the first Kickstarter or two, but then moved them over to separate expansions after that.  Reaper might get more mileage out of using the Core Set as more of a "kitchen sink" package, and then using fantasy-heavy themed expansions to fill with fantasy items.  After all, themes like the Greco-Roman, Asian, Aquatic, Gothic Horror, Darkreach, Dreadmere, and so on seemed to go over really well with backers, while the Encounter sets and things like large dragons and the pirate ship seemed to also be popular with fantasy backers, so perhaps add-ons, encounters, and expansions are the best way to get the most support from fantasy backers, with core sets perhaps working a little better as a fantasy-heavy "anything goes" best-value way to include some Chronoscope items in every Kickstarter?   Perhaps Mythos, Gothic Horror, steampunk, planetary romance (Deja-Thoris style) sci-fi might fit better in the Core Set than some other Chronoscope subjects (far-future sci-fi, for example), and thus are a bit less likely to alienate the fantasy-only backers, but the Chronoscope guys included in the first Kickstarter core set were a dark-horse winner for me, selling me on Chronoscope over the long-haul after they grew on me later... it might help make fans of other fantasy-only gamers too, if fantasy-friendly Chronoscope figures were included in the Core Sets again.  That is, I think there's a chance that backers who might not go in for a Chronoscope-only expansion, might instead be open to a few Chronoscope guys in the Core Set.

 

 

 

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Some sort of lobsterfolk would be nice both for classic fantasy and pirate themed adventures.

Google "Homarid", they are an old MTG race but they are generic looking (not in a bad way) enough to convey what I mean.

A few warriors (two with spears and two unarmed?) and a shaman would be excellent. You know, similar models but with minor differences, like the Bones 5 trolls.

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9 hours ago, Edrajai said:

Some sort of lobsterfolk would be nice both for classic fantasy and pirate themed adventures.

Google "Homarid", they are an old MTG race but they are generic looking (not in a bad way) enough to convey what I mean.

A few warriors (two with spears and two unarmed?) and a shaman would be excellent. You know, similar models but with minor differences, like the Bones 5 trolls.

 

Is the Bones Tidal Lurker close to the lobsterfolk?  Currently out-of-stock, but... There's also a great Bones Crabman model.  (I forgot both existed, until I ran across them in the back of my Big Box of Unpainted Shame the other day!)

 

I like the generic warriors with shaman idea, I've been suggesting some pulp islanders/natives for a while, and it seems to me like they fit the recent Pirate theme nicely.  (Add an outrigger canoe, a Tiki idol, and an Easter Island-style moai for some scenic items, and maybe you've got the start of a themed expansion - just add monsters - maybe a Bunyip, some Drop-Bears, an octopus-demon....?)

 

 

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On 8/31/2021 at 7:43 PM, YronimosW said:

I don't think it's impossible to do a full Chronoscope expansion that is somewhat cohesive, there is some overlap in the genres that can be taken advantage of - for example, there's some cross-over between Cthulhu Mythos, Victorian/Gothic, Weird West, some Steampunk, and Pulp/Noir miniatures, compared to modern, post-apocalyptic, futuristic sci-fi, pulp sci-fi, and cyberpunk. 

 

There are some things that can be done to attract some interest from the "fantasy only" backers and customers, too:  Mythos and Gothic horror monsters can quite readily find their uses with fantasy gamers, for example, and some sci-fi monsters, mutants, aliens, and robots ("war-forged") can find a place in fantasy as well.  Some scenic and scatter terrain could be included in Chronoscope expansions as well:  things like tables, chairs, bar/tavern/saloon sets, barrels and crates, and that sort of thing fit just as well with Chronoscope as they do with fantasy, for example - altars and standing stones and the like fit in just as well with Mythos stuff as they do with fantasy, too.  With a little creativity, a lot of townsfolk and Dreadmere-style swamp adventurers (both apparently popular enough with fantasy gamers) could easily be modeled ambiguously as both fantasy and pulp or Weird West models, for example.   Sweeten the Chronoscope pot for fantasy gamers by including more fantasy-friendly items, and I have a feeling fantasy gamers will have a harder time saying "no" to them!

 

Reaper might also try peppering a few Chronoscope figures back into the Core Sets of future Kickstarters.

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They did that in the first Kickstarter or two, but then moved them over to separate expansions after that.  Reaper might get more mileage out of using the Core Set as more of a "kitchen sink" package, and then using fantasy-heavy themed expansions to fill with fantasy items.  After all, themes like the Greco-Roman, Asian, Aquatic, Gothic Horror, Darkreach, Dreadmere, and so on seemed to go over really well with backers, while the Encounter sets and things like large dragons and the pirate ship seemed to also be popular with fantasy backers, so perhaps add-ons, encounters, and expansions are the best way to get the most support from fantasy backers, with core sets perhaps working a little better as a fantasy-heavy "anything goes" best-value way to include some Chronoscope items in every Kickstarter?   Perhaps Mythos, Gothic Horror, steampunk, planetary romance (Deja-Thoris style) sci-fi might fit better in the Core Set than some other Chronoscope subjects (far-future sci-fi, for example), and thus are a bit less likely to alienate the fantasy-only backers, but the Chronoscope guys included in the first Kickstarter core set were a dark-horse winner for me, selling me on Chronoscope over the long-haul after they grew on me later... it might help make fans of other fantasy-only gamers too, if fantasy-friendly Chronoscope figures were included in the Core Sets again.  That is, I think there's a chance that backers who might not go in for a Chronoscope-only expansion, might instead be open to a few Chronoscope guys in the Core Set.

 

 

 

I would end up buying even less chronoscope like this. 8 have nonise for any core sets anymore. I cant store that many minis. If the Model T car had appeared i wouldve got that as an add-on or that, the air stream, and the cthulhu stuff mightve been enough for me to get the whole set (robots okay but not needed).  ive only bought the cthulu big set, def think encounters is the way to go.

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