What would YOU like to see taught next year

[Chaoswolf]

Third the ergonomic painting class!

[terminalmancer]

26 minutes ago, Crowley said:

I haven't, but I'll keep it in mind for next year, though I'm thinking more larger gaming pieces, like ruined buildings, elevated walkways, and other Finn things for skirmish type games.

 

Oh! I hear "cheap basing for tabletop gaming" I think tabletop RPGs like Pathfinder and it sounds like that's not really what you were looking for.

 

Might still be worth chasing Wappel down if you don't get your class; he does some terrain too.

[MissMelons]

Every year I'm always tempted take wappels basing class again but I dont because others need to experience that awesomeness. So just know, I'm super jealous if you guys that get to take it every year. :)

 

A true texture, stippling class can go a long way for textures lessons.

Edited October 24, 2017 by MissMelons

[terminalmancer]

2 minutes ago, MissMelons said:

Every year I'm always tempted take wappels basing class again but I dont because others need to experience that awesomeness. So just know, I'm super jealous if you guys that get to take it every year. :)

 

A true texture, stippling class can go a long way for textures lessons.

 

I try to take a Wappel class every year, but I've mostly gotten different ones each time. The man's a mad genius. This year I got into Tanks for the Memories and learned a lot, but we'll see how much I can apply to my work. The significant other doesn't want me playing with stuff that's too toxic without proper venting, and the only venting this old house ever does involves funneling cat smells from the basement to the first floor!

[hungerfan]

8 minutes ago, MissMelons said:

Every year I'm always tempted take wappels basing class again but I dont because others need to experience that awesomeness. So just know, I'm super jealous if you guys that get to take it every year. :)

 

A true texture, stippling class can go a long way for textures lessons.

 

How advanced is it?  Alice loved taking Bob's basing class and may want something different next year if it is on a Sat and he would not mind her signing up.  Assuming her wishes of a sculpting class do not come true. :)

[Guest]

6 hours ago, Sylverthorne said:

I wouldn't mind seeing a class on two-brush-blending that didn't involve the words 'eat your mistakes'. And no, I'm not kidding. I'm not sure who it was that I horrified by mentioning that but I know I got somebody... anyway, if there's a way to do TBB that doesn't involve that phrase, I'd be very VERY interested in learning it. Because as it is, I refuse to use that technique as it was demonstrated to me...

 

Ooh. Basing classes. Plz yes.

Also two brush blending that doesn't require bodily fluids.

 

Really, I don't lick my brush (anymore) and spitting into my palette is just gross. I've had a thing against it ever since my first husband spit into my ear.

 

Special Effects in Basing: simulated rain, drool, water puddles, Spanish Moss hanging from branches, rusted/corroded metal, acid puddles, blood spatter, using LEDs, fire/lava effects...

[terminalmancer]

7 minutes ago, Aryanun said:

Also two brush blending that doesn't require bodily fluids.

 

Really, I don't lick my brush (anymore) and spitting into my palette is just gross. I've had a thing against it ever since my first husband spit into my ear.

 

Special Effects in Basing: simulated rain, drool, water puddles, Spanish Moss hanging from branches, rusted/corroded metal, acid puddles, blood spatter, using LEDs, fire/lava effects...

 

Ewww. I'd bonk somebody for that, and not in a good way.

 

Oooh, I would totally take a class focused on water effects! Given the time it takes most of them to set I'm not sure you could do it in one 2-hour slot though. Maybe one session on Thursday morning and a follow-up session on Saturday or Sunday morning?

[nakos]

Matt DiPietro mentioned in his class that there is a product that you can use instead of saliva for the two brush blending but I don't remember what it was. Instead of licking the brush you dipped it into the product and it did almost the same thing.

 

[terminalmancer]

1 hour ago, hungerfan said:

 

How advanced is it?  Alice loved taking Bob's basing class and may want something different next year if it is on a Sat and he would not mind her signing up.  Assuming her wishes of a sculpting class do not come true. :)

 

Wappel's Reapercon 2015 basing class was pretty beginner-friendly. I would not want to walk into it wearing a shirt I cared about, though!

[Sylverthorne]

9 hours ago, OneBoot said:

 

That may have been me. I know that some artists are comfortable with that, but for myself that's a great big NOPE.

 

I second the suggestion from @terminalmancer about basic brush care, use and control (brush strokes). I would legit take it, too, even though I've been painting for a few years now, since I had to just sort of puzzle it out on my own, and I'm sure there's a lot I haven't thought of or could be doing better.

 

An "ergonomic painting" class? Yes please!

 

Huzzah!

--OneBoot :D

 

I think it was Jen Greenwald. I know it was someone teaching the class I was in at the time. 

 

I too have a large order of Nope! With a side of complete refusal for that...

 

4 hours ago, Aryanun said:

Also two brush blending that doesn't require bodily fluids.

 

Really, I don't lick my brush (anymore) and spitting into my palette is just gross. I've had a thing against it ever since my first husband spit into my ear.

 

Special Effects in Basing: simulated rain, drool, water puddles, Spanish Moss hanging from branches, rusted/corroded metal, acid puddles, blood spatter, using LEDs, fire/lava effects...

Spitting into the palette bothers me less than the implication that I should literally eat the paint. And he didn't just imply it! He outright /said it/. And no one twitched. 

 

I will now enthusiastically second the suggestion of a special effects in basing class!

[Mr Melons]

Y'all know the second brush is just to assist the blend and that you can use ur paint water and a second clean rinse water cup to ensure it's pretty much off the brush. Then just keep cleaning out the 2nd rinse water.

 

I don't like brush lickers but if I can pull those blends off like he does.....well call me a weasel licker.

Edited October 24, 2017 by Mr Melons

[knarthex]

9 minutes ago, Mr Melons said:

Y'all know the second brush is just to assist the blend and that you can use ur paint water and a second clean rinse water cup to ensure it's pretty much off the brush. Then just keep cleaning out the 2nd rinse water.

 

I don't like brush lickers but if I can pull those blends off like he does.....well call me a weasel licker.

One of us!!!

[Mnemonic]

I like the ergonomics suggestion, but think it may be tough to fill 2 hours. Maybe such a class can also cover ideas on how to organize a paint station, suggestions on what kit you need (segmented by general skill level), and other handy tools of the trade (covering various products, web tools/resources).

 

I also like the idea of a class devoted to special effects. Aryanun said it best:  simulated rain, drool, water puddles, Spanish Moss hanging from branches, rusted/corroded metal, acid puddles, blood spatter, using LEDs, fire/lava effects...  I do know that Michelle has a blood and gore class, so I'd eliminate that overlap.

 

Another idea is to offer a few more instances of the most popular classes if possible. Hopefully the data is available someplace, but if a class sold out 20 minutes after registration opened then that is what I'm targeting. I'm sure there are many that would appreciate the added flexibility of taking a highly desired class in 2 or 3 possible timeslots.

 

Edited October 25, 2017 by Mnemonic
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[Bold]

4 hours ago, Mr Melons said:

Y'all know the second brush is just to assist the blend and that you can use ur paint water and a second clean rinse water cup to ensure it's pretty much off the brush. Then just keep cleaning out the 2nd rinse water.

 

I don't like brush lickers but if I can pull those blends off like he does.....well call me a weasel licker.

 

I took Matt DiPietro's (excellent!) Two-Brush Blending class last year, and I came away with the same impression: clean the second brush with water, and no saliva / licking is needed. I did the entire two-hour course without licking my brush.

 

That said, in the year since that class I've now found myself using my lips to establish a perfect point on the end of a clean brush. I used to do the "slide it along a palette or paper towel, turn, slide again" method, but it's faster and more precise to place the end of the clean brush on my lips and pull.

 

10 hours ago, Crowley said:

I haven't, but I'll keep it in mind for next year, though I'm thinking more larger gaming pieces, like ruined buildings, elevated walkways, and other Finn things for skirmish type games.

 

I've been getting into creating terrain for tabletop wargames, and I think a class on this would be fantastic. Trees, static grass, water effects, etc.

 

There are a few challenges with such a class:

• TIme. A lot of the techniques require some drying time.
• Cost. A Reaper Bones mini for each class participant is a negligible expense, but materials for a terrain class may be cost-prohibitive.
• Mess. Building terrains is messy. Spray adhesives, flock boxes, static grass applicators... I'd hate to be in the classroom for the next slot following the terrain class.

Edited October 25, 2017 by Bold

[GHarris]

Huh. Ergonomics. I would actually be qualified to teach that! I had the "seriously, we need to go to Reapercon next year!" discussion with the wife and I think we are going to make it happen. You may need to remind me as the date comes closer, if there is still interest who knows?

 

As Mnemonic pointed out ergonomics would be hard to stretch out over 2 hours. Basically by the nature of what we are doing we are doing bad ergonomics, especially when painting. Look at pictures of people painting- basically don't do that! Problem is people steady themselves with their arms on the table, and lean in so they can see what they are doing, that is pretty hard to avoid. You can raise the table to a correct height, get good lighting and get corrective eyewear but people are still going to hunch over. 

 

I think I would talk more about reversing that bad posture, relieving pain and preventing nerve impingement. Taking breaks, doing scapular/shoulder/neck/chest exercises and stretches, being aware of posture in general. I would probably also touch on hand care, and preventing/treating carpal tunnel syndrome from the neck down to the hands. Maybe even throw in some medial or ulnar nerve glides? Maybe talk about text neck, which overlaps a lot with neck pain in what we do?