question on paints??

[seandrichard]

I buyed the learn to paint set 2 plus 3 other paints and all of them were hard or rune should they be like this or did I get bad ones.Thanks

 

 

 

 

also if any of you guys don't use reaper paints what do you thing would be the best brand to buy.Thanks.

[Errex]

I use a mix of GW paints, old and new, along with select hues from Reaper (the whole brown range is pretty good) and ONE Vallejo red.

 

Yes, Reaper paints have a heavier consistency than most paints available for this hobby. Also, their first batches did seem to have some odd variations in quality, especially the basic primary hues (like those in the Learn To Paint kits). The newer, individual pots are a lot more uniform in consistency, if a bit thick. Sadly, the pots themselves are just marginally superior at keeping the paint fresh than the previous screw-tops from Games Workshop.

 

What I like about GW paints is that they flow very well and most of the colors have a very decent covering capability. Downside is that their next to last paint pots were of substandard design, very often the pot would seal shut with rests of paint. I only have a couple of the newer flip top pots, and so far they seem to have nailed it for good. I still don't know why they decided to ditch the original round and hexagonal flip tops.

 

Vallejo's once properly thinned (or depite of), do have a superb covering properties. They need some vigourous shaking, but they rarely dry inside the bottle, and the dropper dispenser is just genius. Some claim that Vallejo brand paints are the best you can get.

 

To sum it up:

a) Reaper are decent paints, if you have the patience to learn their quirks and don't mind adding extenders/flow improvers to deal with them. Also, they are very reasonable priced

 

b) GW are probably the best paints there are to begin with, since you don't have to distract yourself with issues of thickness or grainyness, thus allowing yourself to concentrate on your painting. These are more expensive than Reaper's.

 

c) Vallejo is a master level paint medium. Think of it like paint concentrate. One drop of these paints, once thinned, can last you to cover a fairly good area on a mini. They are probably the thickest ones there are, but also they are the ones that have the finer grain, which gives a creamy smooth consistence. These are just plain expensive.

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Adding to Errex's post, I really suggest buying a bag of stainless steel ball bearings (non-corroding) and putting those and a few drops of water in Vallejo bottles.

 

I didn't do that, though. I got lazy and put some spare familiars from one of the DHL familiar packs in a few bottles after they were hacked up.

[Lars Porsenna]

b) GW are probably the best paints there are to begin with, since you don't have to distract yourself with issues of thickness or grainyness, thus allowing yourself to concentrate on your painting. These are more expensive than Reaper's.

I dunno. The GW paints I use I find I must thin by AT LEAST 1/3 before they become useful. Otherwise they're a bit too thick, obscure details, and don't flow. Once you discover the secret of their thinning, and get used to the idea that good paint =! one time coverage, they are OK.

 

Damon.

[pae]

I buyed the learn to paint set 2 plus 3 other paints and all of them were hard or rune should they be like this or did I get bad ones.Thanks

 

 

 

 

also if any of you guys don't use reaper paints what do you thing would be the best brand to buy.Thanks.

You definitely got a bad batch. Did you buy them locally or online?

 

In any event, send an e-mail to [email protected] and explain the situation to them. They'll take care of you.

 

As for other paints, I use Vallejo paints in addtion to Reaper paint.

[Rodnik]

The paints I use are:

Vallejo

Reaper

GW inks

Liquitex Med Viscosity Acrylic (select special colors)

Select inks from the art store (whites and such that aren't available elsewhere)

Krylon and Tamiya primer, depending on what I'm doin'.

Delta Craft paints/Home Depot mix for base work.

 

I don't much like the gw paints I've used...for a combination of reasons. However I still have a few paint colors that I use on occassion...

[Laralu510]

I read on a thread a little bit ago that reaper was planning on comming out with a series of master paints. Does anyone have information on that, when that is comming???

[ladystorm]

Reaper's new line of Master Paints is tenatively scheduled for a July release last we had any official word.

 

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[Neyuttad]

I exclusively use Vallejo Model and some Game. From my experience,

I haven't found any real difference from GW (or Reaper), they just seem

a little better but that might be because I had more practiec with them.

Also, they come in cute dropper bottles. Pouring Reaper or GW

paints into my own droppers is a pain. They cost $2.75 a bottle but you

get 17ml instead of the 12 from GW(or reaper?)

 

And about the new reaper line, I hope they are not more expensive than

Vallejo.

[Cerridwyn1st]

I exclusively use Vallejo Model and some Game. From my experience,

I haven't found any real difference from GW (or Reaper), they just seem

a little better but that might be because I had more practiec with them.

Also, they come in cute dropper bottles. Pouring Reaper or GW

paints into my own droppers is a pain.  They cost $2.75 a bottle but you

get 17ml instead of the 12 from GW(or reaper?)

 

And about the new reaper line, I hope they are not more expensive than

Vallejo.

The new Reaper Master Paints will be $3 a bottle, which is comparable to Vallejo.

 

I've switched to using Vallejo almost exclusively. I've got the full Game Color line and quite a few Model Colors. They are NOT the same consistancy- Game Colors are a lot thinner than Model colors. Keep that in mind when you start thinning.

 

The only thing I don't like about Vallejo is the skin tones. They seem a bit orange to me. So I tried to go back to Reaper, but those look thick and chalky to me, even after thinning ARGH! When will the new Master Paints come out and end this pain?!!! Beautiful Reaper skin tones in a high quality product?!! Oh, right, July. Dialing up local gaming store to put in reserve order.

[pae]

I think most people have found that the Vallejo skin tones are way too orange.

 

I do use the US Tan Earth color for the base of my skintones. From there, I hightlight up with Reaper Caucasian and Fair Maiden. If necessary, I'll use Vallejo Light Flesh as the top highlight, as this color doesn't have the orange tint to it.

 

If you're sticking with Vallejos for skintones, stay away from most of the flesh colors, and concentrate more on the pale brown red/browns.

 

The oddest thing that I've found about the Vallejo flesh tones is that the Medium Flesh is darker than the Dark Flesh. Go figure.

[Archaon]

I use mostly reaper with some GW. When my Reaper runs out, I will go back to using mostly GW due to international postage costs.

[Neyuttad]

I think most people have found that the Vallejo skin tones are way too orange.

Yes that's true especially for Dark Flesh. though Basic Skintone is fine I think. It's similar to GW Elf Flesh.

 

PS: I hope the new Reaper paints have the little skull shakers in them!

 

PSS: $0.25 higher than the best currently available paint may not be too

wise. Unless of course they are significantly better than Vallejo or more

widely available...then I will make a switch.

[pae]

I think Vallejo paint runs about $2.99 a bottle in most places, if not $3.29. If I remember correctly, Reaper was targeting the $2.99 per bottle price. I might be wrong, though.

[seandrichard]

I think I will buy the vallejo paints.For painting fantasy stuff what colours should I get are there any gameing paint kits from them.Thanks.