Sparrow makes a paint swatch journal

[SparrowMarie]

Decided these 2 pages I've done up are for working out the details then I'm going to tear them out and start over properly. Put lines of various pens/pencils to test the coverage.

 

In order from top to bottom: pencil, pen, sharpie, and unthinned black paint.

[robinh]

I would use the lines or possibly words to show the transparency.    I think I would stay away from the paint as it might affect the end results if it bleeds into it....  Possibly permanent marker or HB pencil would be the choice. 

 

I also think a word would be better than just a straight line as it would be more of a complex shape under the paint and maybe highlight coverage better because of that. (harder for the mind to fill in covered pieces and miss the fact the pieces are actually not showing)

 

 

[SparrowMarie]

5 hours ago, robinh said:

I would use the lines or possibly words to show the transparency.    I think I would stay away from the paint as it might affect the end results if it bleeds into it....  Possibly permanent marker or HB pencil would be the choice. 

 

I also think a word would be better than just a straight line as it would be more of a complex shape under the paint and maybe highlight coverage better because of that. (harder for the mind to fill in covered pieces and miss the fact the pieces are actually not showing)

 

 

 

I'm also thinking I won't use the paint, it was just handy when I was looking at options. I'm thinking using a word(s) is a good idea. Now I'll have to think of a good word(s) to use, possibly just the general color (green, blue, etc.). May have to look around the house to see if I have an HB pencil, all I have handy are mechanicals. So might have to get one.

 

I haven't done anything since last night, I wanted to let the ink/paint dry before I go over it again. 

[Paradoxical Mouse]

43 minutes ago, SparrowMarie said:

 

I'm also thinking I won't use the paint, it was just handy when I was looking at options. I'm thinking using a word(s) is a good idea. Now I'll have to think of a good word(s) to use, possibly just the general color (green, blue, etc.). May have to look around the house to see if I have an HB pencil, all I have handy are mechanicals. So might have to get one.

 

I haven't done anything since last night, I wanted to let the ink/paint dry before I go over it again. 

Most normal mechanical pencils are HB. HB refers to the softness of the pencil, and HB specifically is the usual writing pencil. People wanting more detail might go for H or 2H, whereas people who want smear will go for 1B or 2B. 

[robinh]

The mouse has it correct.   HB is just a softer graphite and well leave a nice dark line.  H and 2H I used to use when doing drafting to establish the initial lines as they leave a very light line due to the hardness in the lead.  I would then use the HB to darken up the final lines to make them stand out.    if you are using a mechanical pencil the default "lead" is normally an HB formulation.

Edited January 31, 2018 by robinh

[SparrowMarie]

6 hours ago, robinh said:

The mouse has it correct.   HB is just a softer graphite and well leave a nice dark line.  H and 2H I used to use when doing drafting to establish the initial lines as they leave a very light line due to the hardness in the lead.  I would then use the HB to darken up the final lines to make them stand out.    if you are using a mechanical pencil the default "lead" is normally an HB formulation.

 

Ah, thank you for this. I will most likely have to find a real pencil in any case since the mechanical pencil I used did not want to write over the primer well.

[SparrowMarie]

Got some #2 pencils because we apparently don't own any. That wrote over the primer with no issue. I ripped out the two pages that I had worked up because since I don't have all the kinks worked out yet I wanted to just use those as test pages. I started gridding up more pages for when I actually get going. I'll probably post some pictures tonight of my line/word tests after I have some time to actually put paint down. I'm wanting to do one color for the tests but I'm not sure which I'll go with. Probably one of the two greens I've already used for consistency.

[SparrowMarie]

Okay, finally got my tests set up like I want them, now to do the test. Going to be using MSP leaf green all the way down.

[SparrowMarie]

Test done. I'm liking the look of the sharpie or the #2 pencil. And definitely will go with a word rather than lines. Now to decide if I want to do anything in the "none" column.

 

 

[Gadgetman!]

the issue with pencils is that they create a depression in the paper. That shows up through the paint and give a 'false positive' on the transparency.

 

[SparrowMarie]

Did a test with both the sharpie and pencil and I'm thinking I might go with both in each box.

 

[SparrowMarie]

After much thinking and wandering around the Google machine I've decided to just go with the sharpie. Most things that I've found people have a very dark black line under their paints so I think that's what I'll do.

[SparrowMarie]

I have a problem. I was filling out names and SKU's and I came to Pale Olive (09036) but the picture says Swamp Green. However, 09175 is also called Swamp Green. Which is the correct name for 09036?

[kazmania7]

09036 is pale olive from an old triad line, 09034 muddy olive, and 09035 olive green, believe they don't produce this triad anymore. 09175 swamp green was from a different triad including 09177 camouflage green and 09176 military green.

[Xiwo Xerase]

I'm pretty sure the label on my bottle for 09036 says "Pale Olive".

 

I'm guessing they renamed the color at some point and didn't make a new image.  The image for the triad (Olive Greens (09712) claims the color is named "Pale Olive".