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10 hours ago, Crowley said:

Question for the weekend of July 7th & 8th: Monster Skin - When you think of goblins, hobgoblins, bugbears, orcs, gnolls, and kobolds, etc., what colors do you mentally picture? Is that how you paint your minis? Are these colors influenced by any particular artwork, description in a book, or appearance in a movie? 

  • Goblins are green by default. Most likely influenced by Spiderman's nemesis Green Goblin. Though I know that D&D goblins are red (occasionally tangerine orange), rarely blue (psionic), and the Pathfinder goblins are green. My Bones 1 goblins have many different skin tones (red, gray, dark purple) to differentiate them on the gaming table. And they also served as color combination experiments (some worked, others not).
  • Orcs are green by default. Warhammer and Blood Bowl made sure I remembered them that way. Though I don't mind different shades to represent different environments. Albino orcs are a possibility.
  • Hobgoblins. Unsure. Orange in D&D, grey in Pathfinder. Not a common monster in artwork.
  • Bugbears are hairy orange-tan. Haven't seen that much artwork with them that shows different colors.
  • Gnolls are... hyena colored? So hairy shades of brown?
  • Kobolds. Scaly orange-red. I think this is because of the older SSI AD&D computer games that I remember them this way. But if I go by the "descended from dragons" theme, any classic D&D dragon color is acceptable.
  • Trolls are green by default. Classic D&D color, and I don't recall seeing many non-green trolls in other media.
  • Ogres. Depending on the setting, same as oversized humans, or green.
  • Hill giants are the same as oversized humans.
  • Stone giants are stone grey. Sort of a given.
  • Fire giants are dark red to burnt black.
  • Frost giants are icy blue with white highlights.
  • Cloud/Storm giants... grayish blue, cloud colored? Haven't given them much thought.
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12 hours ago, Crowley said:

Question for the weekend of July 7th & 8th: Monster Skin - When you think of goblins, hobgoblins, bugbears, orcs, gnolls, and kobolds, etc., what colors do you mentally picture? Is that how you paint your minis? Are these colors influenced by any particular artwork, description in a book, or appearance in a movie? 

My color scheme is largely based on my needs as an Earthdawn GM.

 

Goblins - Don't exist, might repaint them as Scurriers. Exposed brains could be fun to paint.

Hobgoblins - Make great Orks. Usually painted with olive tones (as in the color of Spanish Olives)

Bugbears - repurposed as Magmabeasts, painted in bright red with messy black drybrushing

Orcs - See Hobgoblins above

Gnolls - Don't exist, might squint and call them Jackalmen

Kobolds - Don't exist, might repaint them as Pangoli

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23 hours ago, Crowley said:

Question for the weekend of July 7th & 8th: Monster Skin - When you think of goblins, hobgoblins, bugbears, orcs, gnolls, and kobolds, etc., what colors do you mentally picture? Is that how you paint your minis? Are these colors influenced by any particular artwork, description in a book, or appearance in a movie? 

 

These days, I am more influenced by the idea that goblins are fae creatures, so I'm more willing to give them weird skin tones - blue, or purple.  But not green.

 

My orcs are not bright green.  I might use an olive drab, or a gray-green, but my orcs range all over the place.  There was a Heavy Gear paint that was a pale flesh (Grel Flesh) that worked quite nice.  I've used cool, pale lavender-gray.  Reaper had a decent brown-green triad (Troll Shadow - Gnoll Brown - Half Orc Highlight) that I like. 

I haven't used a reddish color yet, but I could do goblins in an orange without any issue.  Not only does that fit in with the colors originally mentioned in the Monster Manual, but it's close enough to a fae-ish color so the folklore side of me is happy.

 

My reasons?  Well, goblins got cut from the orcish line because there are too many goblin critters in D&D.  Goblins, orcs, hobgoblins, gnolls, ogres . . . how about we just give orcs class levels?  The flavor I want in my games is "fae" - they are otherworldly, and we can't understand them.  Kobolds, for instance, are not little dog-like draconic critters in my world, but the miners of folklore = they can cause illness and spoil veins of metal (Kobold and cobalt are related).  So goblins become evil critters from Faerieland, occasionally stealing babies and replacing the infant with a changeling.  

 

As for the orcs, I strongly dislike the green tones used for GW orcs.  I get that it's part of their fluff.  But there's so many better options for skin, and I don't get to use all the available different tones often enough, so bright green is out.  Muted colors (with the occasional pale albino-ish orc) are in.

 

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As far as I am concerned, the bright green skin tones of orcs and gobins is something specific to GW games, in which I have no interest.

 

I am perfectly happy to accept fantasy races with a wide variety of skin colours (and there is no need for members of the same race to all be a uniform colour).  But the cartoonish GW style is definitely not for me.

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On 7/7/2018 at 7:46 AM, Crowley said:

Question for the weekend of July 7th & 8th: Monster Skin - When you think of goblins, hobgoblins, bugbears, orcs, gnolls, and kobolds, etc., what colors do you mentally picture? Is that how you paint your minis? Are these colors influenced by any particular artwork, description in a book, or appearance in a movie? 

Many of my mental images of monster skin tones all relate to the 2nd edition Monster Manual.

Goblins tend to yellow-greens and even sometimes blue.

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Hobgoblins are a redish orange. 

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Bugbears are tawny.  

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Orcs are green to blue greyish skin tones.

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Gnolls are sort of hyena colored, but because of their close association to demons, their skin tones are reddish or blue-grey, depending on how demonically aligned they are.

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Kobolds are redish brown.  

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My orcs and goblins tend to be varying shades of green but occasionally veer off into other colors. My kobolds so far are tan and orange green.  My hobgoblins are also greenish so far, orange just didn't look right. Ogres are just human colors but may shade off a bit. Same for my giants so far since they have all been hill giants. My lone bugbear was snow white because he wasn't a regular bugbear, but I was thinking I might paint them like ogres. My only troll so far was also snow white and blue like the bugbear, they'll be painted as needed so I've no idea what they'll look like yet. 

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29 minutes ago, Crowley said:

Question for Monday, July 9th: Do you enjoy binge watching TV shows, or do you prefer to enjoy them in a more drawn out fashion?

 

I usually watch a few episodes in a row on an evening when I like a series, and then maybe finish it within one or twee weeks that way.

 

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59 minutes ago, Crowley said:

Question for Monday, July 9th: Do you enjoy binge watching TV shows, or do you prefer to enjoy them in a more drawn out fashion?

 

Hard to say for television series, but I will say this about anime, and I suspect it would apply for TV as well: there is this nice benefit to waiting a few months and being able to watch all of that season's episodes either back to back, or over a few days.. 

 

... So I suppose the answer is yes, simply because I hate waiting for the next episode to come out.  Probably the last time I actually watched each episode when they came out was, uh, uhm... Reboot.  When it came out.... And they had to do re-runs every three episodes because they couldn't produce them fast enough to do otherwise... 

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1 hour ago, Crowley said:

Question for Monday, July 9th: Do you enjoy binge watching TV shows, or do you prefer to enjoy them in a more drawn out fashion?

 

When in season, I will watch a baseball or basketball game. On rare occasions, I'll catch a movie.

Otherwise I don't watch TV at all. There really is nothing of interest on for me...a barren wasteland.

On 7/7/2018 at 6:46 AM, Crowley said:

Question for the weekend of July 7th & 8th: Monster Skin - When you think of goblins, hobgoblins, bugbears, orcs, gnolls, and kobolds, etc., what colors do you mentally picture? Is that how you paint your minis? Are these colors influenced by any particular artwork, description in a book, or appearance in a movie? 

 

Whatever strikes my fancy...they are fantasy folk after all.

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1 hour ago, Crowley said:

Question for Monday, July 9th: Do you enjoy binge watching TV shows, or do you prefer to enjoy them in a more drawn out fashion?

 

Last week I watched the entire second season of Legion.  I'm still wondering how many SAN points I lost.

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1 hour ago, Crowley said:

Question for Monday, July 9th: Do you enjoy binge watching TV shows, or do you prefer to enjoy them in a more drawn out fashion?

Depends on the show. Anime I can usually binge, unless it's a grimdark one. Some other shows. One weekend not too long ago we watched two seasons of something, but dang if I remember what. Some shows' content keeps me from being able to binge it, most notably the Netflix series A Series of Unfortunate Events. Not because it's sad and a lot of horrible stuff happens to the kids, but because the adults are so unrelentingly stupid that the desire to slap them becomes a physical pain.

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1 hour ago, Crowley said:

Question for Monday, July 9th: Do you enjoy binge watching TV shows, or do you prefer to enjoy them in a more drawn out fashion?

 

I much prefer to binge-watch.  I've watched way more shows in recent years, thanks to Netflix, than I ever would have if I was stuck waiting a week between episodes like the bad old days.  Like, even though I really enjoyed both seasons of Stranger Things, there is no way in hell I would have watched that show over the course of 2-3 months. 

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1 hour ago, Crowley said:

Question for Monday, July 9th: Do you enjoy binge watching TV shows, or do you prefer to enjoy them in a more drawn out fashion?

 

I really like watching 2-3 episodes at a time, then again the next day.   Its sort of a slow motion binge. 

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