D&D books?

[redambrosia]

Just put in an order for xanathar's guide to everything and a the elemental evil players companion (a print version from dms guild). 

 

I really hope they release a magic encyclopedia with better spell organization. I had to go through spells for one of my priests the other day and it's just obnoxious. 

[Club]

Late 2007/early 2008 was a good time to be a Canadian. Our currency had surpassed the USD signifigantly*, and stuff that used to be massively expensive was fairly cheap, cross-border.

 

Now we're dealing with the fact that a decade under the conservative party turned us into a petro-state, and the loonie went down with the price of crude. $50 for the PHB? Yes, PLEASE.

 

 

*Canadian banks are among the most highly regulated & stable in the world; we were being used as a shelter currency by people who saw the recession coming.

[Dr.Bedlam]

2 hours ago, redambrosia said:

Just put in an order for xanathar's guide to everything and a the elemental evil players companion (a print version from dms guild). 

 

I really hope they release a magic encyclopedia with better spell organization. I had to go through spells for one of my priests the other day and it's just obnoxious. 

 

There are any number of indexes available free online; hell, I think some of them come from the Dungeon Master's Guild.

I liked Volo's Guide To Monsters. I really wish they'd go back to publishing Volo Guides from Volo's point of view.

[haldir]

14 hours ago, Kangaroorex said:

I suffer from this as well.  Even though I see inflation examples all around I have a firm idea in my mind of what something should cost and have a hard time paying the higher price.

 

Strangely my two sons have radically different views over material goods.  My older son is very frugle, though I can't call him stingy or cheap.  When he wants something, he wants the best out there, he just doesn't want much.  My younger son is very material but not overly concerned with quality.  

 

I seem to have developed the two prime examples of today's youth.

 

 

 

My 2 kids are the same way, thou opposite. Oldest is the spender, youngest is the cheap "hee haw". Heck he won't even fork over a few bucks for in game stuff in Fortnite. (current Xbox game he is playing). Anymore seems like the only thing he'll spend cash on is the current release for Madden Football.

 

Daughter on the other hand, gets a few bucks, gone!

[Rob Dean]

Of course, with respect to inflation, this has always been going on during our lifetimes.  When I was a kid 40+ years ago, my parents (b. '31 and '39) were appalled that a candy bar wasn't a nickel.  I should ask them if they've "reset" since then. 

 

With respect to books as objects (as opposed to books as containers of game systems), I would note that it could be argued that the objective value of the books has been increasing over time; more pages, more color, more art for the same stable inflation adjusted price.  The bindings might not be up to the indestructible textbook bindings of the early D&D hardcovers, but sewn signatures rather than glued have been increasing in frequency as far as my anecdotal observations go.  

 

Considered as containers of game systems, though, I'd as soon play OD&D or Classic Traveller from the original three booklets as some of the 400 pages tomes of today.

[Dr.Bedlam]

10 hours ago, Rob Dean said:

Of course, with respect to inflation, this has always been going on during our lifetimes.  When I was a kid 40+ years ago, my parents (b. '31 and '39) were appalled that a candy bar wasn't a nickel.  I should ask them if they've "reset" since then. 

 

With respect to books as objects (as opposed to books as containers of game systems), I would note that it could be argued that the objective value of the books has been increasing over time; more pages, more color, more art for the same stable inflation adjusted price.  The bindings might not be up to the indestructible textbook bindings of the early D&D hardcovers, but sewn signatures rather than glued have been increasing in frequency as far as my anecdotal observations go.  

 

Considered as containers of game systems, though, I'd as soon play OD&D or Classic Traveller from the original three booklets as some of the 400 pages tomes of today.

 

Point well made. The Player's Handbook fifth edition is a large ornate tome, heavily and beautifully illustrated.

The Advanced Dungeons And Dragons Player's Handbook was a fairly slim volume with a lovely painted cover, but little interior art aside from line drawings.

[Kangaroorex]

16 hours ago, Dr.Bedlam said:

 

Point well made. The Player's Handbook fifth edition is a large ornate tome, heavily and beautifully illustrated.

The Advanced Dungeons And Dragons Player's Handbook was a fairly slim volume with a lovely painted cover, but little interior art aside from line drawings.

But I do love those line drawings!  There is something magical about that style of game book for me.  It just feels more like an ancient tome of secrets and mystery than the modern slick multicolor print jobs.  I realize it's personal preference but still...

 

That said I am really excited about the latest kill team which is all of GWs slicknes and overproduction 

[buglips*the*goblin]

19 minutes ago, Kangaroorex said:

But I do love those line drawings!  There is something magical about that style of game book for me.  It just feels more like an ancient tome of secrets and mystery than the modern slick multicolor print jobs.  I realize it's personal preference but still...

 

That said I am really excited about the latest kill team which is all of GWs slicknes and overproduction 

 

I always liked the earnest crudity of 1e, but I really like how it meshes well with getting old and cranky.  It's a visual tell of "back in my day" and its impenetrable language is the most effective form of "get off my lawn and take your weird new dice with you". 

 

I've never been so happy to have people so unwilling to play D&D with me.  Now they can't touch my figures. 

 

 

[Doug Sundseth]

6 minutes ago, buglips*the*goblin said:

 

I always liked the earnest crudity of 1e, but I really like how it meshes well with getting old and cranky.  It's a visual tell of "back in my day" and its impenetrable language is the most effective form of "get off my lawn and take your weird new dice with you". 

 

I've never been so happy to have people so unwilling to play D&D with me.  Now they can't touch my figures. 

 

 

 

Masons have their secret signs and costumes. We have the terrible writing and bad art of OD&D and AD&D 1.

 

But only when you get to name level.

 

(If you don't know what name level means, you're not there yet. Perhaps you failed the secret test that you didn't know you were taking. Which totally doesn't exist. At all. Never mind.)

 

 

I'm glad that the people who like OD&D and AD&D have what they like. For me, I dropped both by the late '70s for games that didn't offend my desire for coherence quite so much. (The same is largely true of Traveller, which is a great world that works better with a different game behind it.)

[Rob Dean]

I do have to add that I go the other way on Traveller; the original rules are better without the attempt to explain how the 3rd Imperium works according to them...

[buglips*the*goblin]

I like how there are numerous references to "giant strength" in 1e, with absolutely no quantification of any sort until you get the entry for girdle of giant strength.  And no supplementary stat data past 18 until Unearthed Arcana.  

 

8 years is a long time to wait!   Maybe it was a scheme to sell Dragon subscriptions. 

 

 

[BlazingTornado]

On 7/21/2018 at 7:23 AM, Rob Dean said:

The bindings might not be up to the indestructible textbook bindings of the early D&D hardcovers, but sewn signatures rather than glued have been increasing in frequency as far as my anecdotal observations go.  

Yeah but Wizards Customer Service'll replace any broken 5E book free of charge.

[Dr.Bedlam]

11 hours ago, Kangaroorex said:

But I do love those line drawings!  There is something magical about that style of game book for me.  It just feels more like an ancient tome of secrets and mystery than the modern slick multicolor print jobs.  I realize it's personal preference but still...

 

There is NOTHING so magical as that which WAS magical when I was in eighth grade. And regardless of what comes after, the magic remains.

Or to steal words from Stephen King, "If it was junk, then it was magic junk."

[redambrosia]

11 hours ago, buglips*the*goblin said:

 

I always liked the earnest crudity of 1e, but I really like how it meshes well with getting old and cranky.  It's a visual tell of "back in my day" and its impenetrable language is the most effective form of "get off my lawn and take your weird new dice with you". 

Well, then you should enjoy the hoooooorrible art in the 5e PHB. Like, seriously, the art is gawdawful! 

 

We got Xanathar's Guide to Everything today. I gotta say, the little quotes all over the book from Xanathar are hilarious! Hubby is tempted to have him in game, but he's not sure he could do him justice

[BlazingTornado]

So more books got announced.

 

An Eberron campaign guidebook PDF is up for sale on the DMsGuild, and a Magic The Gathering crossover book for the magitek Ravnica setting is coming to actual physical existence in November.

I feel like Eberron got shafted here.

https://twitter.com/Wizards_DnD/status/1021440930610667520