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ReaperCon 2019 -- Classes I Would Take

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11 hours ago, Mr Melons said:

Since ideas are being thrown around and keeping newbies in mind, my wife and I were talking and an idea came to fruition. We've been seeing that this year, the gaming has pretty much blown up and had a big draw. I'm sure there was also a big draw of first time/new painters that resulted from this. We were thinking that a paint and take is great but lacks any real input besides whomever is your neighbor at the tables. How about a walk up (not online registration) of a "class" that is like a live Learn to Paint Bones kit (just not the same miniatures that come with it). You pick one of three bones figures, grab instructions, grab three paints and begin painting it. The instructor then comes by and walks a person through the steps, providing feedback or advice throughout the whole miniature. I'm sure it could even be cross promoted with the Learn to Paint Bones kits.

This is how the Gen Con Paint n Take was run years ago (I'm not sure how it is now, I haven't been there in several years :(  ).

 

The tables were arranged in a long U with volunteer instructors in the middle and the paint-n-takers around the outside. The volunteers handed out minis and helped set up paint areas, managed water and paint needs and gave basic instruction if desired. If someone just wanted to sit and paint for a bit, that was cool too.

 

 I could see this as a 'gateway' class for new instructors too. Perhaps the volunteers, who want to see if teaching is for them, go through a short seminar on how to teach the Learn to Paint kit (so minimal new material to be developed and well, sales pitch) at the beginning of the con. Then they volunteer to teach for say a 30 min drop-in seminar at the U. Then the drop-in students can stay and work with the volunteer instructor standing by, or leave if they choose. This could be located near Artist Alley so the volunteer instructor can act as a liason for students wanting more advanced instruction (i.e. help for introverts) and can get experienced instructor assistance if they're stuck.

 

The more I think about this idea, the more I like it. This could also be a spot to get advice on which classes to take to match skill level. The basic terminology issue could be a part of this and handouts and (mini) posterboards could tie in here too.

 

Someone, please shoot this idea down before I hurt myself.

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19 hours ago, Keianna said:

 

Interesting idea, but maybe as a second or third mini. After running a paint and take, one of the things that suprised me was that most people just want to sit down and slap some paint on without much in the way of instruction. It was getting started on that first step that people asked the most about. I recommended that they start with a liner layer and very rarely did they want more than that other than help finding a particular color. 

 

 

This has also been my experience running paint & takes for the past several years at a local convention. I'm not sure anyone who attends thinks of me as 'Wren a studio painter who teaches classes at big conventions', or even 'Rhonda Bender who wrote a learn to paint kit'. They think of me as the lady who brings the paints and minis to this section of the con where you can sit down and paint. In the years I've been doing it (or the years I did a local monthly paint meet up), it is beyond rare for me to get asked a question for much tutoring at all. Some occasional washing and drybrushing, but a lot of people just as happy to sit and do their own thing with the mini. I'm more often asked how to assemble a multi-part miniature (or to repair one) than I am asked painting questions beyond super basics. I do get people who ask me to paint the eyes for them sometimes.

Questions about getting started (what order to paint the figure in, sometimes more foundational stuff of how to dispense and apply the paint) are by far the most common. My attempts to offer additional info to show people drybrushing and washing are as often rebuffed as they are accepted.

 

What people do seem to enjoy is having someone there to sit and chat with and to show off their mini to. I think it's reasonable to not try to throw too much at people straight away. If they're happy slapping some colours on a mini, let them enjoy it! There's no rush to get to a next stage if people are having fun with the one they're at. 

(This is not to say that I don't think that there is interest for basics classes or guided painting, I think there is. But those of us who hang out on the forums are the most avid type of mini painters who want to learn all kinds of things. I'm not sure we represent the entire audience of newbies to ReaperCon or the hobby in general. Some people just want to get some colour on their figures to enjoy their games more, and that is cool, too.)

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I know there was a class on vehicles a couple years ago, but a CAV specific class taught by @Savage Coyote or @Mastergunz on how to make Panels, canopies, etc look so good and then maybe touch on some weathering/distressing would be awesome!

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57 minutes ago, CitizenCane said:

I know there was a class on vehicles a couple years ago, but a CAV specific class taught by Ross or Todd on how to make Panels, canopies, etc look so good and then maybe touch on some weathering/distressing would be awesome!

I would be interested in this too.

 

I'm also interested in classes on basing and dioramas.  (I keep forgetting to look up what class was taught in the same room as @Kuro Cleanbrush's NMM boot camp this year so I can watch for it on next year's schedule.)

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To Xiwo Xerase, if you are referring to the class on Friday at 10 am in room #1, it was my class on the other side of the curtain: " Diorama building tips". I am leaning toward teaching it again next year if there is enough interest.

 

 

Bob Ridolfi

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33 minutes ago, JG/RR said:

To Xiwo Xerase, if you are referring to the class on Friday at 10 am in room #1, it was my class on the other side of the curtain: " Diorama building tips". I am leaning toward teaching it again next year if there is enough interest.

I am!  (You came over and told us not to use MEK glue.)  I'd love to take your class next year.

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37 minutes ago, Xiwo Xerase said:

I am!  (You came over and told us not to use MEK glue.)  I'd love to take your class next year.

 

You should take ANY class that he teaches...just sayin'. :0

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1 hour ago, JG/RR said:

To Xiwo Xerase, if you are referring to the class on Friday at 10 am in room #1, it was my class on the other side of the curtain: " Diorama building tips". I am leaning toward teaching it again next year if there is enough interest.

 

 

Bob Ridolfi

I'd take it!  

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17 hours ago, JG/RR said:

To Xiwo Xerase, if you are referring to the class on Friday at 10 am in room #1, it was my class on the other side of the curtain: " Diorama building tips". I am leaning toward teaching it again next year if there is enough interest.

 

 

Bob Ridolfi

Yes! Please...

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Maybe a simpler solution for the 'How I painted this' poster idea is a QR code for the mini that links to their Blog/forum post/video wip?  I know if those were near some of the show entries I'd have scanned a bunch of them... it's also good advertising for their Patreon, blog, etc.. 

 

this year was my OSL year, and as a bonus I got Clever Crows stone class.   I'm not sure what I want to focus on next year, but something on smoother painting techniques for things like White like Vince Venturella just posted.. dealing with chalky paint, dealing with water/wash edges..

 

 

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2 minutes ago, SamuraiJack said:

Maybe a simpler solution for the 'How I painted this' poster idea is a QR code for the mini that links to their Blog/forum post/video wip?  I know if those were near some of the show entries I'd have scanned a bunch of them... it's also good advertising for their Patreon, blog, etc.. 

perhaps this idea could be further facilitated by a station where one could type in the link, and get a sticker with a QR code?   At first I was thinking self serve, but it would likely be better if it was a manned station to ensure they were appropriate links. 

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After attending a few Reapercons, the most frustrating thing is there aren't a lot of advanced technique classes, and those that are labeled as advanced inevitably have folks who signed up and don't know what layering is so the entire class devolves into a basic how to put paint on a mini class, which is frustrating when you are paying sometimes $40 for a class that is supposed to focus on advanced/ challenging techniques or ideas.  

I would love to see more texture classes.  IE, How to replicate different types of cloth, old and new leather, etc.  

I would love to see how to paint skin tones aside from Caucasian.  

Outside the Box Thinking about color, light, technique.

A bigatures class, for busts or large figures, that teaches how to use oil paints or deal with large surfaces.  

 

I know most of these ideas have been taught before, but they usually have on timeslot and sell out stupid fast. 

 

Additionally hands on, I feel for most things, are more beneficial than essentially watching a livestream in person.. If I am paying 40 bucks, I don't  wanna just watch what I could find online for free.. A class someone pays for  should not be the instructor pimping their livestream/ youtube to get followers.. Also please prime the bones prior to having folks come to class.. wasting time brown liner priming a bones mini is a pretty crappy way to spend class time.  

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On ‎9‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 10:51 PM, Cygnwulf said:

a hands-on airbrush class would be very interesting to me...  not sure what kind of logistics would be involved in that though....

This.

 

I'd love a class on creating a spectacular scene for things like dioramas or even individual miniatures.

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