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Well, they changed the names, but essentially lifted the characters straight from the movies. I smell a C&D coming if Disney finds out about this one.

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15 minutes ago, TaleSpinner said:

Well, they changed the names, but essentially lifted the characters straight from the movies. I smell a C&D coming if Disney finds out about this one.

 

Which is why I will stay out of it.

Should this hit retail without legal troubles, I might pick one up.

But for now this is too dangerous..it could mean pledge and lose the money.

 

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12 minutes ago, Glitterwolf said:

 

Which is why I will stay out of it.

Should this hit retail without legal troubles, I might pick one up.

But for now this is too dangerous..it could mean pledge and lose the money.

 

 

Plus it just pisses me off.  I mean they could have easily done an inspired by collection, and that would be fine. But they literally copied everything, the costumes, the actor's faces, etc...  Not cool, not cool at all.  :grr:

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That's way too obvious. There is no way they'll avoid being noticed by Disney in the next 29 days. 

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It's a pity it's just busts.

I probably would have backed it for a set of Davy Jones plus Crew figures, and then hoped like heck that no one official noticed what they were up to!

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I've been seeing updates about this on facebook. They are very blatant about directly copying faces. "Compass Captain' Mad Brother" is Nicholas Cage, "Compass Captain' Drunken Brother" is Steven Tyler and "Octoman Pirate" is Sir Anthony Hopkins. They shared the exact pictures of the actors that the faces were copied from. I don't think there's anything wrong with being inspired by and using the facial features of real people, but they were very obviously marketing it as "Here's a Steven Tyler as a pirate figure!"

Just doesn't seem right to me all around.

It's a shame because I think the sculpting is really beautiful and well detailed, but those are some murky, murky waters they're sailing those pirates in and I think it's well past my comfort level.

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Here's what they say on the KS comment:
 

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9th Gate MiniaturesCreatorabout 4 hours ago

In response to your question regarding the license or permission to use the pirate of Caribbean characters, please note we do not infringe any image or copyright because our products are made and branded by us, without any reference to the protected trademark brands or name. We don’t copy or produce counterfeit products that may be deemed as a breach of any protected brand. Should you feel that our products breach any copyrights, please advise where the breach is and where the protection is registered. Our busts are registered with the UK IPO https://www.registered-design.service.gov.uk/find/gqetvnkt/92393749/designsbyowner

 

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Nice looking sculpts but given just how readily they're ripping off of Pirates of the Caribbean (to the point of not only sculpting pretty much the exact same costumes as used in the movies, but also PAINTING THEM to look the same)....  Even before their knee jerk response that is rather provocative, I'm out.  Way too murky, way too risky. 

 

Which, as others have said, is a pity because they are indeed nice looking sculpts. Just yeah, IP issues that are that blatant is just too risky to even consider for me. 

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All of them registered in August and September. It was probably handled by a clerk who doesn't care about Disneyed Pirates, so didn't recognise the blatant pirating going on. 

Of course, now that it is registered there, it means that The Mouse have yet another place to attack them. 

 

Oh yeah, this one is going to burn.    

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And not all of the designs in the KS appear to be registered under the link they gave.  There are only 14 registered designs listed for them, but two of them are complete figures rather than busts, meaning only 12 busts there.  The KS has at least 16 busts by my count, and they claim 23 in at least one part of it.   I don't know UK IP law, so they may have some legal grounds to stand on, but do they have the money to go up against Disney to prove it? 

They probably could have snuck under the radar for years if they had done 1-2 busts at a time, and painted them up completely differently than the characters.  Grouped together like that with the color schemes they've chosen is a signal beacon for someone to take notice. 

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Even if Disney doesn't go after them, the celebrities involved could certainly sue over likeness rights.

 

And several of the "models" wouldn't have to worry about international law to do it.

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It's filed in bad faith. They were well aware of what they were doing and they thought registering their blatantly stolen work would give them a leg to stand on. I don't think it will, especially not against the notoriously ruthless Disney, I think it'll make things worse for them. In my not professional opinion, the filing with the UK copyright office is very intentional fraud. The thought process behind intentionally stealing someone else's work and then having it registered... I think it's really gross and I really think this is going to go very, very poorly for them.

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