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Overall I've been happy with what I got from Mantic in the Dungeon Saga and Terrain Crate Kickstarters. I wasn't expecting super high quality and for what I paid I feel it was enough. I definitely don't argue with anybody about the quality issues though. The worst I've dealt with is the carts from Terrain Crate. I've boiled and straightened them a couple times and they're still wonky. Not sure I'd be as happy if I'd paid retail price and I do agree it could have been better. I've only painted a small part of what I got from them.

 

Need to see more of what they'll be including before making up my mind on this one. My main focus for the last quite a few years has been more ancient and medieval style fantasy. Not against throwing in anachronistic stuff if I like it though. It is fantasy after all.

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56 minutes ago, Original Timmy said:

 

Welcome to Terrain Crate, its the same material throughout the whole range, im not too impressed with it which is a shame as the designs are cool but poor production materials imo

And this is what bothers me about Mantic. Not knowing what to expect.

They've done it right in the past,  but now don’t seem to be designing their terrain around the material being used.

The pic below is from Mantics Battlezone series of modern terrain. It was originally designed at the time of their Mars Attacks kickstarter, from a few years ago, but it’s marketed separately now. 

 

You can see that the stop and street signs, very long thin pieces, are perfectly straight. Even the bench to the left of the sign posts is all perfectly straight, while a similar piece in the stall set is warped with bent legs.

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One more thing.

I bought the urban accessories at a local game store two tears ago for $21.95 Canadian for 48 pieces.

The market stall set was $11.95 Canadian for 11 pieces.

The value certainly has changed.

 

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3 hours ago, Darsc Zacal said:

Much of what you said already occurred to me, but to be honest, there are some minis that I’m happy to spend a lot of time fiddling with to get them to look right, like dragons and giants, but then there are those minis, like the stalls,  I just want to buy and plonk down on the table after a very quick paint job.

These are going to require too much time and work for what they are.

 

They really don't take that long to fix, using the hot water method - around a couple of minutes per stall. They are spindly enough that they do not need long to soften up or to harden again when you are done.

 

It is the basing them that takes the time, but it looks good when done.

 

I got to use mine for the first time last night. ::):

 

The wagons were harder - and made me wish they had been shipped disassembled. (Had the exact same problems with the smaller wagon from WizKids - just an awkward shape for fixing the warps - I had to heat a section, fix it - and paperclip it to a wooden coffee stir to cool.)

 

The stalls I could fix without the paperclips and coffee stirs - and since I had been planning to base them anyway....

 

But - I had the bases already.

 

I can see where not having the bases would make it a nuisance.

 

The annoying thing is that I thought of a better way to base them about ten minutes after finishing the last one. <_< (The new and improved method would have taken longer, but been more scenic - essentially making a little rectangular dais out of 1/2 inch insulation board.)

 

The larger -2 inch or 3 inch - Reaper Base Boss bases can also be used - turned upside down, the stall glued in place, then sand and white glue around the legs - holding the legs in place and filling the base.

 

A quicker and dirtier method.

 

The Auld Grump

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1 hour ago, Darsc Zacal said:

And this is what bothers me about Mantic. Not knowing what to expect.

They've done it right in the past,  but now don’t seem to be designing their terrain around the material being used.

The pic below is from Mantics Battlezone series of modern terrain. It was originally designed at the time of their Mars Attacks kickstarter, from a few years ago, but it’s marketed separately now. 

 

You can see that the stop and street signs, very long thin pieces, are perfectly straight. Even the bench to the left of the sign posts is all perfectly straight, while a similar piece in the stall set is warped with bent legs.

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One more thing.

I bought the urban accessories at a local game store two tears ago for $21.95 Canadian for 48 pieces.

The market stall set was $11.95 Canadian for 11 pieces.

The value certainly has changed.

 

 

Yeah they had decent terrain in TWD campaign, the PVC was a lot harder and held detail better, its stated on the TC campaign page and in the FAQs it would have the PVC from TWD and many times in the comments when the DS PVC was brought up Mantic stated it would be the same PVC as TWD, which turned out false, imo the 1st signs that TC will have a material swap was when the SS terrain came in the DS PVC also after being promised the TWD PVC and from what i could see Mantic refused to answer any questions reguarding the change and if it will affect TC!

I cant comment too much on the MA or DZ items as they are buried in a cupboard, but from your pics and my memory there was no floppyness or bad warping.

Like i say imo its a shame as the designs are really cool.

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16 hours ago, Darsc Zacal said:

You might be right. I didn’t follow the kickstarter that closely as I decided not to back it.

Heres a pic of the set. It doesn’t show as much but even the thicker pieces are bendy. The thin pieces are going to be a problem. I don’t think they’re firm enough to support the weight of the top.

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I have to admit - the worst of my stalls looked nowhere near as twisted as the one on the right

 

Probably would take just about as long to fix - but looking at something that warped is discouraging all by its lonesome.

 

We got the Town Centre set, not the individual Market Stalls set - the only disappointment was that tall wooden... plinth... thing. (What is it? I dunno. What's it for? I dunno. Why is it in the set? I dunno.)

 

Well, that and yet another warped wagon....

 

The Auld Grump

 

5 hours ago, Knight of the Dinner Table said:

Glad I skipped the Terrain Crate KS then ... seems typical for Mantic: Promise a lot, show great concepts / digital sculpts and then deliver an underwhelming product.

Like I have said before - I am very happy with Terrain Crate - aside from the warped wagons.

 

Fixing the problems has neither been harder nor easier than fixing the exact same problems in Bones models. Warped ladders? Hot water bath, followed by a dunk in ice water. Warped candlestick? Hot water bat, followed by a dunk in ice water.

 

If anything, Terrain Crate led to my getting more terrain, from WizKids.

 

Even the wagons would not bother me - if they had been sent out disassembled.

 

So far, the most used bit has been the barricades - goblins with bows? Not much of a challenge. Goblins, with bows, behind decent cover? Now the players have a bit of a challenge.

 

*EDIT* For that matter - my all time favorite Bones miniature is the set of ruins from Dragons Don't Share - kicking myself for not getting the ruins as a separate pledge during the KS.

 

The Auld Grump

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I got the hedgerows and fences part of the Terrain Crate line and painted it up yesterday. No problems and it help paint well. A bit bendy, but the fences all looked good right out of the box. 

 

I will take a look at their next KS for sure, did not back the first.629107443_FencesandHedgerowsA.thumb.JPG.03a0eb96e26ed94d00da012e24b51242.JPG

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I backed the first for, I think, everything. The stuff routinely hits the table and is mostly good quality. Some stuff is worse than others.

 

That being said, I will wait to see what is offered before buying again. No reason to commit blind at this point.

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21 hours ago, Darsc Zacal said:

Heres a pic of the set. It doesn’t show as much but even the thicker pieces are bendy. The thin pieces are going to be a problem. I don’t think they’re firm enough to support the weight of the top.

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Mine were about this bad. 1 bent back but the others ( I  also got market square)  are fine last I checked after a boil. Like i said earlier this has been unlike my other purchases made at retail.

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2 hours ago, Talae said:

I will wait to see what is offered before buying again. No reason to commit blind at this point.

 

Agree, I do not even commit blindly with Dwarven Forge.

 

But I must say  Abandoned Village is starting to stir my imagination.  

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9 hours ago, lexomatic said:

Mine were about this bad. 1 bent back but the others ( I  also got market square)  are fine last I checked after a boil. Like i said earlier this has been unlike my other purchases made at retail.

The smaller stall definitely needs a base - even after straightening the bends, the legs are kinda wobbly.

 

The big one, just as spindly, doesn't have that problem - but I based it anyway.

 

But... I was planning on basing them anyway - I'm not going to say that some of my players have a tendency to knock terrain over, but.... <_< (I run a kids game. And have an enthusiastic barbarian player in the grownups game.)

 

The Auld Grump

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I wish they had made some of the more finicky items out of the same material as the wooden fences. They seem to be a harder plastic than the rest of the more bendy bits, and some small items could've used it!

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On 1/6/2019 at 12:40 PM, Knight of the Dinner Table said:

Glad I skipped the Terrain Crate KS then ... seems typical for Mantic: Promise a lot, show great concepts / digital sculpts and then deliver an underwhelming product.

 

Really? Out of the 80+ Kickstarters I've backed, the Terrain Crates was actually one of my favorites. It felt well run to me, and I was extremely pleased with the results, which seemed exactly like the concepts.

 

I now have an obscene amount of (non-fragile) terrain at a ludicrously low price (I almost felt like I ripped them off)... so I'm pretty darn happy I didn't miss this one.

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Same ditto. (:

 

I'll probably throw cash at the "one of each basic box" pledge, like I did before, since I play a variety of genres. I think the Mantic terrain KS was good for a bulk purchase for tabletop.

 

I guess a problem I have with Mantic is that I don't trust them enough to know what plastic I'm getting! ): That's why I didn't back their other KS projects. I'm a little surprised that they're not showing sf pieces, at least not yet.

 

For terrain that's higher quality or if you're looking for only certain pieces, I recommend Tiny Furniture. And if you want a place to put your tavern terrain, look at Galladoria Game's Adventurescapes sets! (:

 

And Great job, Dice4hire! I thought the hedgerows looked too blobby, but you've done a wonderful job! Nice touch with the moss on the fences!!

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