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Yep! 

 

Someone will correct me on this, but Mantic was founded by former GW director, Ronnie Renton, to make inexpensive miniatures for GW's Warhammer Fantasy. KoW rules came later, and were designed so that you could use your own miniatures, at least generic fantasy ones. That was back in 2010, so keep checking the army lists for what models that may be Mantic-specific.

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The free rules on Mantic Games website (not linking as I don't want to be Mod-batted for linking to a commercial website) mentions base sizes.

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To be clear: Only the unit bases or movement trays that the unit is on matter.  There are no per-model rules and models aren't removed as casualties.

 

That means you can use fewer models on a base than the nominal amount and/or turn each unit into a mini-diorama.

 

 

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As lowlylowlycook says, it's the base size of the unit that matters.  So, the smallest unit of ghouls is 40mm x 100mm, which equates to two rows of 5 miniatures on 20mm square bases (10 miniatures total). 

 

There are some guidelines about how many miniatures should be on the unit base, but that's more for tournament play than friendly play.  Basically, they still want you to play with lots of miniatures; having one miniature zombie on a horde base and saying "that's a massive unit right there!" is frowned upon.  I believe the rule is that you should have 60% of the required miniatures on the unit base.

 

There's nothing stopping you from just cutting out the correct size template and moving rectangular shapes around a board, either. 

 

The nominal base sizes correspond roughly to GW base sizes:  Orcs get 25mm bases, elves and dwarves get 20mm.  Ogres get 40mm.  But ultimately the base size is basically immaterial (my totally not-a-tournament army has ghouls and mummies on 25mm bases, because that's what Reaper's Warlord game has), because the unit size is what matters.

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Some pics of Mantic Orcs, painted with Army Painter KoW Greenskins set. You can see how the spear units have longer bits, so can't be packed as densely as the axe units. But it's still fine for gaming!

 

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Heck, Ronnie's Dwarf army started off with a whole bunch of non-Mantic minis. (Including some rather ancient Ral Partha.)

 

One of my dwarf regiments is posed for a painting - standing on stairs, colors in full display, with a commanding officer character model that is armed with a brush and an easel.

 

One of my players used Avatars of War dwarf rangers set climing a foam mountain, and placing their banner at the top. (Why do dwarfs climb mountains? Because it's ours.)

 

The Auld Grump - goblins are getting some freaking awesome models right now.

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On 4/10/2019 at 3:43 AM, lowlylowlycook said:

To be clear: Only the unit bases or movement trays that the unit is on matter.  There are no per-model rules and models aren't removed as casualties.

 

That means you can use fewer models on a base than the nominal amount and/or turn each unit into a mini-diorama.

 

 

 

In addition to this, in the back of the rulebook there is the Exceptional Base Size rule. The Exceptional Base Size rule only applies to single miniatures. it does not apply to units (units have a set base size and a minimum model count which is 1 model more than the maximum size for the next smallest unit). So a Troop (10 miniatures) has a minimum model count of 6, a Regiment (20 figures) has a minimum model count of 11 (1 more than the 10 required for a troop).

 

As long as you've got enough figures on the movement tray and the tray is the correct size for the type of unit (and as long as you and your opponent know what it is) then it's good to play.

 

Exceptional Base Size is slightly different. The Exceptional Base Size rule is this: If your model (hero, dragon, giant etc) cannot fit on the listed base size for it's entry in an army list then put it on the smallest base it can reasonably fit on without overbalancing etc, and it just counts as being the size it's supposed to be. Basically it's a rule that says "you can still use your awesome model without your opponent complaining about it being on  abig base but don't go shoving stuff on oversized bases to try to abuse anything."

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