Bones 4 and Baba Yaga's Hut

[Venun]

11 hours ago, breye said:

With mine, if the feet are flat on the ground, the front face of the building is at about a 45 degree angle.

It isn't even remotely close to being able to stand alone without faceplanting - I have my doubts that the boiling water routine will provide enough of a change, or a long lasting enough change, but guess I'll give it a go.

 

I unpacked mine yesterday, the boiling water trick gave me enough options to bend the feet to exactly the right pose.

The weight of the house ensures it stays in that pose, just leave it to stand for 10m after the boiling water treatment, it should be fine from there :) 

 

[pinkymadigan]

So - removing the legs and magnetizing.

 

I had a thought that this probably wouldn't work when I saw how hollow the legs are, but now I have an idea I'd like some feedback on:

 

Maybe cut the legs, fill with GS/other sculpting medium, push magnet in place, left that whole side dry. After that side cures you attach the magnet, fill the other side with medium and push the hardened side into the uncured side to force the uncured side to conform to the cured, then detach and let dry. That should also make an impression for the second magnet.

 

What do you guys think?

[Doug Sundseth]

21 minutes ago, pinkymadigan said:

So - removing the legs and magnetizing.

 

I had a thought that this probably wouldn't work when I saw how hollow the legs are, but now I have an idea I'd like some feedback on:

 

Maybe cut the legs, fill with GS/other sculpting medium, push magnet in place, left that whole side dry. After that side cures you attach the magnet, fill the other side with medium and push the hardened side into the uncured side to force the uncured side to conform to the cured, then detach and let dry. That should also make an impression for the second magnet.

 

What do you guys think?

 

That quantity of GS would be really expensive, and I'd worry about it popping out. But the leg plastic is pretty thick and I've been thinking that it might be possible to embed magnets diagonally in the leg wall material. The unevenness of the cuts around the legs should allow easy indexing and a couple of pairs of magnets per legs should be strong enough, even if they're small magnets.

 

Somebody (else) should try this so that I'm not required to. 

[TGP]

25 minutes ago, pinkymadigan said:

What do you guys think?

 

Neodymium magnets stick really well to steel washers. 

Steel washers are available in many sizes and thicknesses. 

Zinc plated steel washers are commonplace and cheap. 

 

Some combination of washers and magnets will work, perhaps stuffing the upper portion of each leg with washers (...I did that with a Games Workshop tree once. Made the base heavy like a chessman. And it would stick to magnets.)

[breye]

8 hours ago, Venun said:

 

I unpacked mine yesterday, the boiling water trick gave me enough options to bend the feet to exactly the right pose.

The weight of the house ensures it stays in that pose, just leave it to stand for 10m after the boiling water treatment, it should be fine from there :) 

 

 

Took 3 or 4 sessions, several minutes in the boiling water, bend, cold water, let sit, repeat.

Seemed to work much better than the results I can typically get with white bones material.

 

Almost 20 hours now, and the amount of resettling back to its old state is minor at this point - still gonna wait a bit before starting real work on it.

[pinkymadigan]

3 hours ago, Doug Sundseth said:

 

That quantity of GS would be really expensive, and I'd worry about it popping out. 

Yeah, I suppose I was thinking of backfilling with scrap foam, and just making the cap/connection point out of putty.

[Corsair]

3 hours ago, pinkymadigan said:

So - removing the legs and magnetizing.

 

I had a thought that this probably wouldn't work when I saw how hollow the legs are, but now I have an idea I'd like some feedback on:

 

Maybe cut the legs, fill with GS/other sculpting medium, push magnet in place, left that whole side dry. After that side cures you attach the magnet, fill the other side with medium and push the hardened side into the uncured side to force the uncured side to conform to the cured, then detach and let dry. That should also make an impression for the second magnet.

 

What do you guys think?

Fill the legs with BBs for weight. When you go to do the second magnet [or washer] put some saran wrap over the area so the adhesive doesn't glue them together again.

[TGP]

Somebody (was it @kristof65 ?) sawed the legs off and posted pictures. Where are those pictures? What thread are they in?

[kristof65]

On 5/14/2019 at 10:04 PM, TGP said:

Somebody (was it @kristof65 ?) sawed the legs off and posted pictures. Where are those pictures? What thread are they in?

They're in the enthusiasm thread, somewhere between page 1000 and 1100. 

Here they are again - they'll be easier to find here:

the saw I used:

 

First leg off:

 

 

Both legs off:

 

I don't have pics, but since I did this, I used Magic Sculpt epoxy putty to create a small foundation for it so it sits flat.  As I mentioned in the enthusiasm thread, I never intended to use mine with the legs, and didn't care about the damage I did to the bottom of the model. 

[Dimitri Mazieres]

Has anybody tried using a debonding product to try breaking the glue?

[Halberkill]

Why is the house itself so heavy? I think the new bones material is more denser, but they designed the house with the old material in mind and made it too thick.

 

I'm thinking of opening the roof and dremeling out the excess plastic in order to reduce the weight.

Halber

[astolat]

FWIW, I tried the hot water treatment twice. In both cases I got the hut into a good position, it seemed to be staying, and then over the course of a few days, it sagged back over again.  

 

I have now cut off the legs, using the method described in the video. One of them wasn't fully glued and popped right out after I cut just a little, on the other one the leg was completely fused. That one did not take me under a minute. :) Soak the join for at least 30 seconds, have a new sharp blade (I used a utility knife), try and make sure that your blade actually penetrates into the hollow space, and then apply gradual steady pressure while pulling it along the seam. 

 

I've now put the legs separately onto an apoxie sculpt-over-foil base, filled the hollow bits with apoxie sculpt to make them heavier, and built up around the tops of the legs a little. The house can be put on them as needed & I won't leave it on there long enough to deform them. 

 

 

 

[breye]

On 6/6/2019 at 9:26 AM, astolat said:

FWIW, I tried the hot water treatment twice. In both cases I got the hut into a good position, it seemed to be staying, and then over the course of a few days, it sagged back over again.  

 

 

I've done multiple boiling bath treatments, the last about 3 weeks ago - the legs have returned to giving the floor/base back to about 5-10 degree angle from pretty close to parallel to the ground, now given the 45 degree starting angle (no exaggeration), it is in the realm of tolerable.

But now that I see corrective bend is degenerating, I'm gonna let it sit a couple more weeks and see how it goes.

Edited June 19, 2019 by breye
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