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2 hours ago, Humansquish said:

I am a huge battletech fan, but I have been hesitant to pledge for this because of the success it has had.

This is why I’m happy they’ve stopped doing additional lance packs as stretch goals.  They’ve acknowledged the campaign has surpassed their wildest expectations and the new stretch goals are for things that have lower development costs or are things they can do in house.

 

19 hours ago, HornedTurtle said:

I got here after they hit the million dollar mark and I'm a little confused what you are actually getting in each of the pledge levels and what all the options are.

I made a pledge calculator spreadsheet (Google Sheet) that works like this:

  • Select what items you want out of the KS.
  • The spreadsheet will then recommend a pledge level and show the cost, including the add-ons.

Note that CGL has not announced the pricing for all add-ons so the pricing may not be completely accurate.

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28 minutes ago, Xiwo Xerase said:

I made a pledge calculator spreadsheet (Google Sheet) that works like this:

  • Select what items you want out of the KS.
  • The spreadsheet will then recommend a pledge level and show the cost, including the add-ons.

Note that CGL has not announced the pricing for all add-ons so the pricing may not be completely accurate.

Ooooh, thanks for making that.  It's handy to help figure out this and that.

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Oooooooooooooh, some of the new stretch goals. 

 

I think I finally figured out what my pledge level will be... Going with Bloodnamed, with a few choice extras (extra challenge coin and dice set, one of the tukayyid neoprene maps, and two lance packs).  Star Colonel was tempting, but I'm going to focus on the core mechs I like for now.  Thanks for making that calculator @Xiwo Xerase, it was extremely helpful!

 

I'll get "A Game of Armored Combat" separately, even if it costs more - that way I can get it by just walking into the store, and not waiting ^_^;;;

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You’re welcome!  It was fun to write.  All of the logic is handled by a Google Sheet script (which is basically JavaScript), and I enjoy programming.  (Really, I enjoy problem solving, and programming is a nice subset.)

 

I’m at Star Colonel now.  I’m debating going up to Galaxy Commander (jokingly as penance for writing the pledge calculator).

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Big Warning for those who are backing this and not following what's going on in detail

 

they've apparently asked the backers what they wanted to see in the various packs and have therefore (responding only to those on higher pledges?) decided to cancel a bunch of the mechs that they were planning to do, and introduce a whole bunch of different ones (mainly seems to be dropping clan content & replacing it with inner sphere designs), plus shuffle around what mechs are going to be in what packs,

 

this info has apparently not made it onto the front page (yet?) but is buried in the spreadsheet & backer only update

 

so if your backing make sure what you thought you were getting will still be there and be prepared to adjust your pledge/complain to catalyst as apropriate

this is what Gitzbitah on Dakka has produced to try and summarise the changes

 

"No longer being produced-
Fire Falcon
Hellion
Kodiak
Whitworth
Bombardier
Howler (Baboon)
Solitaire
Pack Hunter
Scarybus
Firestarter Omni
Berserker
Hermes

Will be produced-
Night Gyr
Linebacker
Behemoth (Stone Rhino)
Zeus
Stalker
Hellhound
Goshawk
Piranha
Cataphract
Bushwhacker
Axman
Nightstar

New lance-
Raven
Enforcer
Hunchback
Victor

New Lance-
Dragon
Thug
Cyclops
Spider

And Sentinel.

Sorry the formatting stinks, but it might be easier to figure out than their google doc. "

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As a BT newb, the update means very little to me, since I don't know what any of them look like anyway (or at least remember...I did play a MW video game or two back when they were mostly big blocky polygons....).
Based on the comments so far (almost 300 as of right now) they seem pretty ok with the changes, apart from the Kodiak being pulled.

 

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7 minutes ago, Orlando_the_Technicoloured said:

mainly seems to be dropping clan content & replacing it with inner sphere designs

This isn't accurate.  No Clan 'Mechs have been replaced with Inner Sphere 'Mechs.

 

There were two stretch goals that were going to create two new Star or Lance Packs.  The content of these packs was going to be discussed by CGL and high-pledge level backers.  They were never guaranteed to be Clan.

 

I'm not completely sure why this is information is limited to a backer-only update, unless they're still collecting feedback and this isn't final.  If it's final, they really should release the information publicly soon.

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2 minutes ago, Xiwo Xerase said:

I'm not completely sure why this is information is limited to a backer-only update, unless they're still collecting feedback and this isn't final.  If it's final, they really should release the information publicly soon.

 

That would be my guess.  "Let's show everyone already in, and if there are no major blow ups we'll update the graphics after a bit. But if we ticked everyone off about something, let's get that fixed before we update everything."

 

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1 hour ago, Xiwo Xerase said:

I'm not completely sure why this is information is limited to a backer-only update, unless they're still collecting feedback and this isn't final.  If it's final, they really should release the information publicly soon.

The document itself specifically states "proposed changes", if I remember correctly.  I think they were hoping for more feedback, and then to go live with the info after GenCon. 

 

I have no real attachment to the Kodiak, but I can understand why people who are into the story and fluff would be upset about one of the front line mechs in the invasion being removed from an expansion that's specifically about the invasion.  The pic on Sarna doesn't do much for me, but a lot of the renders from other games and art do make it look neat.  Kind of hope it will stay, since it's so beloved, and one of the mainstays for Ghost Bear..  If that pack had that, I'd still want that particular pack because of the Hunchback IIC and all the other IIC variants in it. 

 

I'm stupidly happy about the Raven and Hunchback being in the first stretch goal community pack though.  Like really, really happy about that. 

 

I'm also still debating between Bloodnamed and Star Colonel.  It's a tough call, as I know I want more mechs but I also know I have websites to pay for right after I pay for BattleTech...  Knowing me, I'll still try to find room for Star Colonel though, because oh my, do I want those mechs... 

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I am glad that they are listening to feedback, if a little annoyed at the scattershot communication they have chosen. On the whole, I am on board with the list of dropped sculpt choices, although I kind of have some fondness for the Fire Falcon.

 

I'm actively excited to see a re-worked Behemoth/Stone Rhino. I'm hoping they try to give it the "classic" treatment with all new art.

 

 

"My kingdom for a new Whitworth sculpt!" is not a thing I have heard spoken aloud. ::P:

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@Xiwo Xerase's spreadsheet suggests that my current Star Captain pledge is appropriate for my needs, in the extremely likely event that we hit the $1.25m goal.

 

If we reach $1.5m, I will have to reconsider the Bloodnamed option for improved doubled forces.

 

The current clan Heavy Star proposal is something I'm not sure I can resist.

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Okay, I just read the update. If changes are to be made, this is the way and time to do it, while changes can be made by backers. In all actuality, the changes are very good ones. Several mechs that were lost were ones rarely played on the table and their replacements are far more commonly used and seen. Yes, backers who were putting in more money were the ones consulted, but that shows who were the most dedicated collectors/players are. I wish I could afford to be in that group, but being retired, I cannot spend to that level now.

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The more I play with Xiwo Xerase's calculator the more I'm tempted to try and find the cash to pull off getting Star Colonel...  It's just a tough sell to myself, since I'd be pretty much doubling the amount of money I'm putting in... 

 

The biggest question is how badly I want either doubles of this and that, or if the likely 1.5mil hits, how many of the packs I'd actually want for sure.. 

 

EDIT: Eh, for now, thanks to Xiwo Xerase's calculator my pledge has gone up a touch, but I've dropped down to Star Captain for now.  Four stars of clan mechs, a star of elementals (plus the two points that come in the box), three IS lances, and then one of the neoprene Tukayyid maps..  Will add a whopping 40 mechs (factoring in two salvage boxes + A Game of Armored Combat), which I suspect is more than enough for my backlog.  I'd consider the extra little bit to stick with Bloodnamed!, but I don't really know if I'd care all that much about the faction pack and an extra little thing I probably wouldn't wear - I'm mostly in this for the minis....  Of course, when they show off the shirts, all bets are off :ph34r:

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