complete Burrows & Badgers: Great and Small

[Sanael]

2 hours ago, redambrosia said:

Hey don’t knock yourself. That was a beautiful dragon. 

But, by all means, do another dragon 

I agree on both these points.

[Maledrakh]

I have been of a mind for some time no that what that dragon really needs for me to get around to painting it is a  5 or 6 mm tall halfling burglar conversation companion.  But then I have not been able to find one that fits.

 

@lovejoy: Could I just propose a teeny tiny small sculpt?   Please, pretty please with sugar on top?

[Rob Dean]

So what time of the day is this due to go

live?

[Gadgetman!]

23 minutes ago, Rob Dean said:

So what time of the day is this due to go

live?

 

Now...    

 

 

[Kangaroorex]

18 hours ago, Lovejoy said:

The dragon's an old model, from our second Kickstarter, back in the mists of time... I don't personally like it much, TBH! I reckon I could do a much better job now. But I'll give the moulds a spin when I get the chance, and see if they're still OK.

The badger in metal was not really a cost thing - as a big (113g) lump, it used to overheat moulds rapidly, and often suffered significant pitting. So getting decent quality reliable casts meant going to resin, and having done that, it made sense to do it for all the bigger models. But while we can do metal casting in-house, proper resin work is tricky, and something we outsource.

 

I think I may have started something .  By all means do another dragon, maybe one based on a monitor lizard to go with the critters kickstarter.  However I always regretted not getting your original dragon when I had the opportunity and I would love another chance to acquire one.  

 

As for the badger, I may whine about not getting another chunk of metal, you know better than I what works and the badger mage was amazing! I will be adding another of the resin warriors to.my order .  Resin is definitely tricky but it usually produces a sharper cast so I will be happy either way.

 

 

And pledged!

[Pineapple]

In for the small. Probably can't justify the great right now.

[WhiteWulfe]

I'm debating on what level of pledge I'm going to be going with.  I'd absolutely love to do the all in, but that's also $166 CAD before shipping, and it ends a few days before payday. 

 

I'll update the main post in a few minutes with a link and proper tags once I'm at my desktop. 

[Lovejoy]

15 hours ago, Maledrakh said:

...a  5 or 6 mm tall halfling burglar conversation companion...

 

@lovejoy: Could I just propose a teeny tiny small sculpt?   Please, pretty please with sugar on top?

I haven't sculpted 6mm stuff in years! I'm hoping to try some 10mm in the near future though, so if I can still do the small stuff, I may be able to do a halfling as well. No promises, mind it may never happen! I have a horribly big pile of jobs to do at the moment...
 

43 minutes ago, Kangaroorex said:

 

I think I may have started something .  By all means do another dragon, maybe one based on a monitor lizard to go with the critters kickstarter.  However I always regretted not getting your original dragon when I had the opportunity and I would love another chance to acquire one.  

 

As for the badger, I may whine about not getting another chunk of metal, you know better than I what works and the badger mage was amazing! I will be adding another of the resin warriors to.my order .  Resin is definitely tricky but it usually produces a sharper cast so I will be happy either way.

 

 

And pledged!

It's funny, we do get some people who will only buy metal, and others who will only use resin... so now we've got the range split between the two, we've annoyed them all!
And we still get regular suggestions that we switch to hard plastic... so I just tell them how much it would cost, and that usually knocks the conversation on the head! 

 

7 minutes ago, Pineapple said:

In for the small. Probably can't justify the great right now.

It's difficult - I usually only have one Massive beastie in the project, because they really push up the price, but I'd been promising people these three for so long, I felt like I had to put them all in.

 

4 minutes ago, WhiteWulfe said:

I'm debating on what level of pledge I'm going to be going with.  I'd absolutely love to do the all in, but that's also $166 CAD before shipping, and it ends a few days before payday. 

 

I'll update the main post in a few minutes with a link and proper tags once I'm at my desktop. 

Cheers WhiteWulfe!
Incidentally, the shipping is included in all the pledges, so there's nothing extra to add for that! 


OK, I imagine most of you have seen these pics on the KS page, but for those who haven't looked yet, here they are:

 

 

 

 

 

cheers,
Michael

[Rob Dean]

Ok, I’m all in as well...time to get my all-Landsknecht band together...

Edited October 28, 2019 by Rob Dean

[WhiteWulfe]

3 minutes ago, Lovejoy said:

Cheers WhiteWulfe!
Incidentally, the shipping is included in all the pledges, so there's nothing extra to add for that! 

 

Ooooh, that's good to know.  In at pick and mix for the moment, but will look at budget to see if I can finangle the full on amount.

 

OP Updated with link: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/oathsworn/oathsworn-burrows-and-badgers-anthro-miniatures-mouse-dog-cat

[Gadgetman!]

23 minutes ago, Lovejoy said:

It's difficult - I usually only have one Massive beastie in the project, because they really push up the price, but I'd been promising people these three for so long, I felt like I had to put them all in.

 

 

I can see the issue with having 3 big ones, but...   

If you want to collect them all, you still have to buy all of them at one point or another.  

I expect some will use Pick'n Mix and add only one of them to their pledge, and get the others as Retail later. 

(And have to pay retail prices and shipping) 

 

Coletta is awesome, btw. 

 

The only 'issue' with this KS as I see it is that it ends a couple of days after Bones V.  

There's a danger of some backers overextending themselves on that, and not have the funds available when this one ends. 

 

[Gadgetman!]

Checked the second KS to find pictures of the dragon. 

It's ... different than most dragons on the market. 

Yeah, I'd buy it. 

 

Then I checked the comments section of that project...   

 

And the very last post there, by @prophetic_joe, links to this thread:

 

 

http://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/58181-burrows-and-badgers/

 

And the rest is history...   

[Kangaroorex]

1 hour ago, Lovejoy said:

I haven't sculpted 6mm stuff in years! I'm hoping to try some 10mm in the near future though, so if I can still do the small stuff, I may be able to do a halfling as well. No promises, mind it may never happen! I have a horribly big pile of jobs to do at the moment...
 

It's funny, we do get some people who will only buy metal, and others who will only use resin... so now we've got the range split between the two, we've annoyed them all!
And we still get regular suggestions that we switch to hard plastic... so I just tell them how much it would cost, and that usually knocks the conversation on the head! 

I cannot see how plastics would be viable  the base investment is just too large and you have so many to choose from.  (even some mighty great Dwarves from days of old )  you have made good choices on the materials, I just am old school and I like the weight of the metal miniatures.  From the aspect of playing and using the miniatures, Resin is actually the better material being less likely to chip the paint and easier to repair if It is damaged. 

 

for some other lines I might prefer metal because it can be melted and exchanged, but your minis all eventually make it to my painting table and have their day in the sun. (or painting lamps as the mood takes me)  Thanks for making such wonderful minis!

[Rob Dean]

So, please accept this question understanding that I am already all-in, but as an old-schooler I am not very familiar with resin. I am particularly curious about what happens if you drop it. Chipping is one thing; shattering another. 

[Doug Sundseth]

28 minutes ago, Rob Dean said:

So, please accept this question understanding that I am already all-in, but as an old-schooler I am not very familiar with resin. I am particularly curious about what happens if you drop it. Chipping is one thing; shattering another. 

 

"Resin" isn't just one thing, so the answer is, "It depends". First there's the type of resin, which can vary quite a bit in shock resistance ( @Lovejoy will I'm sure jump in with more on this). Second there's the issue that size can be very important in fragility. Large figures have lots of mass to take shock, but lots of mass to increase the shock to be dissipated as well; in general, larger figures are more prone to catastrophic damage from drops, but less prone to catastrophic damage from normal handling*.

 

* It's a square:cube thing: mass (and thus the energy you have to dissipate) rises as the cube of linear dimension while the cross sectional area of vulnerable points rises as the square of linear dimension. It's the same reason that a mouse can fall a very long distance without damage, but an elephant can be killed by a very short drop (and can't jump at all).