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9 hours ago, Doug Sundseth said:

And many stores do not want to deal with minimum order quantities for multiple manufacturers and will only order from their regular distributor.

This attitude made sense to me before I ended up in a job doing purchasing for a small manufacturer.   Now the "I don't want to have to deal with a half a dozen different suppliers"  line when I've had to deal with more than 2 dozen vendors at a time makes me SMDH. 

 

 

7 hours ago, LittleBluberry said:

For everyone wanting squads of similar units, the elf ranger seems to be a bit of a test of that concept. 

Which is why I plan on buying extras of these, in addition to the ones in the core - to show Reaper that I heartily support the concept. 

Even though I probably don't need them. 
 

3 hours ago, OneBoot said:

I WANT it. But I haven't the faintest idea where we're gonna PUT it. :lol:

I have enough space on my mantle to store it for you after you get it painted.  

Just putting the offer out there.::):

 

3 minutes ago, Skallabjorn said:

For RPGs, minis are a convenience, and AID to tactical movement, and a preventative for retroactive repositioning. WYSIWYG, IMO, is NOT really critical,

 

For tabletop wargaming, WYSIWYG is key, and failure to follow at least close to that can have major tactical implications.

Agreed - but I've found that tabletop gamers seem to be more willing to do the conversions for WYSIWYG than RPGers are, and yet it's RPGers who are pickier about the exact representation. 

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8 minutes ago, kristof65 said:

Agreed - but I've found that tabletop gamers seem to be more willing to do the conversions for WYSIWYG than RPGers are, and yet it's RPGers who are pickier about the exact representation. 

 

As has been alluded to in other posts, I think this is due to a large percentage of wargamers coming from a model building background. The ones with a model railroading background especially seem to enjoy scratch builds, conversions, and kit bashing.

 

I am of the opinion that those of us who prefer to assemble our minis, rather than have them preassembled, are from those types of hobbies.

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17 minutes ago, Skallabjorn said:

For tabletop wargaming, WYSIWYG is key, and failure to follow at least close to that can have major tactical implications.

 

 

I guess it depends on the rules used, and your group of gamers, as I know in our games we only loosely go by WYSIWYG.  It more important what it says on the unit's/warband's stat card than what the model shows.  If I say that unit is entirely shield armed, even though only half the models are actually carrying shields, everyone's fine with that. 

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7 minutes ago, kristof65 said:

This attitude made sense to me before I ended up in a job doing purchasing for a small manufacturer.   Now the "I don't want to have to deal with a half a dozen different suppliers"  line when I've had to deal with more than 2 dozen vendors at a time makes me SMDH. 

 

I've worked for a software vendor for the last 12 years working on a product designed specifically for a rather narrow vertical of retail dealers (not game stores), and I can say that I've seen both types. We'll have some stores that have a guy who places daily orders from a dozen or more different vendors and will spend several hours comparing pricing to get the best overall deal on each order.  And the next week I'm working with a guy who will moan and complain and kick stuff that he has to place 2 orders today because he needs a part from an OEM that his primary distributor doesn't carry.  That said, the former usually ends up being associated with the larger and more successful dealerships....

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11 minutes ago, Chris Palmer said:

 

 

I guess it depends on the rules used, and your group of gamers, as I know in our games we only loosely go by WYSIWYG.  It more important what it says on the unit's/warband's stat card than what the model shows.  If I say that unit is entirely shield armed, even though only half the models are actually carrying shields, everyone's fine with that. 

 

One issue that came up in warhammer 40K years ago.  2004 etc

 

One person modded their landraider and put all the lascannons on the top. they made it look cool.  the issue was, now all the lascannons, they way this player used them, were in the same arc to hit a target.  in a tournament he was called out on it. 

 

Generally it doesnt have to be WYSIWYG within reason. 

 

You cant use Ang'grath the Unbound for a regular bloodthirster since ang'grath has a much larger base, line of sight, reach etc (although the new bloodthirster is higher on its base, so line of sight may be the same)

 

Sanjay

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6 minutes ago, Alsafah79 said:

My favorite so far is the Greek Odyssey!

 

Same! :wub: Just so much awesome goodness in one expansion, lots of useful things for gaming and fun stuff to paint! Totally a win for me. ^_^

 

16 minutes ago, kristof65 said:

I have enough space on my mantle to store it for you after you get it painted.  


Just putting the offer out there.::):

 

You are too kind, good sir. :upside:

 

(if you actually are serious, feel free to contact me ^_^

 

Huzzah! 

--OneBoot :D 

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6 minutes ago, StarFyre said:
12 minutes ago, Chris Palmer said:

 

 

I guess it depends on the rules used, and your group of gamers, as I know in our games we only loosely go by WYSIWYG.  It more important what it says on the unit's/warband's stat card than what the model shows.  If I say that unit is entirely shield armed, even though only half the models are actually carrying shields, everyone's fine with that. 

 

One issue that came up in warhammer 40K years ago.  2004 etc

 

One person modded their landraider and put all the lascannons on the top. they made it look cool.  the issue was, now all the lascannons, they way this player used them, were in the same arc to hit a target.  in a tournament he was called out on it. 

 

Generally it doesnt have to be WYSIWYG within reason. 

 

You cant use Ang'grath the Unbound for a regular bloodthirster since ang'grath has a much larger base, line of sight, reach etc (although the new bloodthirster is higher on its base, so line of sight may be the same)

 

Sanjay

 

 

Maybe it's the difference in tournament style army points play, and friendly scenario-based games.  I never did the Games Workshop scene so don't have that mind set. 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Skallabjorn said:

For tabletop wargaming, WYSIWYG is key, and failure to follow at least close to that can have major tactical implications.

 

Not my experience at all, and I've been playing miniatures wargames for more than 40 years. Proxies are very common, and while it can be a bit confusing at times, with good will by the players I've never seen it be game-breaking. And I've also seen (and used) empty bases when the minis aren't painted yet.

 

Miniatures are just pretty markers.

 

15 minutes ago, kristof65 said:

This attitude made sense to me before I ended up in a job doing purchasing for a small manufacturer.   Now the "I don't want to have to deal with a half a dozen different suppliers"  line when I've had to deal with more than 2 dozen vendors at a time makes me SMDH. 

 

If the vendor is a major part of the store's business (see GW or WotC, particularly), it's not that difficult to go direct. It's likely for any store that will still be around in six months that getting to minimum retail order quantities isn't going to be all that difficult. But for a line that sells (say) $50/week, and there are lots of those in a retail game store, even a very successful game store, it's much harder. And that's without considering special orders. The difference in convenience between spending an hour with your distributor rep once a week and spending 10 minutes on the phone with each of 30 different manufacturers is significant.

 

And then those calls are going to be made at a time when the store is open, so interruptions from customers are going to happen all the time as well, which is much more manageable with one call than with a couple of dozen.

 

Too bad those distributors are ... not better at their jobs. (Talk to me some time if you want stories.)

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