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Since I only paint for fun and display the size doesn't affect me.

 

If you like the models and think they'e too big for a game, why don't you paint them as statues or idols?

It could make a great setting.

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1 hour ago, Glitterwolf said:

Since I only paint for fun and display the size doesn't affect me.

 

If you like the models and think they'e too big for a game, why don't you paint them as statues or idols?

It could make a great setting.

because I NEED a Succubi army for my brothel damn it!

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I don't play anymore, there are no players where I live now sooo...
but, about the size of the bases or the look of the models: isn't D&D a "Fantasy Role Playing Game"?
I mean... Fantasy... Role... Playing...
The base is bigger? Well the monster is oversized! Noone ever seen a Wolf-Dragon (or a Dragon-Wolf)? Oh guys, you know what? That crazy wizard succesful hybridized a dragon and a wolf! Maybe was a big wolf, maybe was a small dragon... maybe was some kind of alchemical genetic experiment...
does really matter in a Fantasy world?

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When we had this conversation a while back regarding the size of the giants, my thought was that it didn’t matter too much what the size they are, due to the good points that size varies from person to person and creature to creature. 
 

When thinking about the succubi/incubi I thought the same thing at first, but the more this conversation has progressed the more I feel like the same holds true in the opposite direction. If all of the succubi/incubi are larger than an average medium character, then they may not be as appealing for role playing purposes as they would with varying sizes or if they were all medium in scale. From a role playing perspective, since succubi/incubi are, in my opinion, meant to be temptresses/tempters I would imiagine that they would want their size to be similar to that of their victims. While I’m sure that some would be enticed by large sized creatures, I would think other may be frighted by a large creature. 
 

Those are just some of my thoughts regarding the current conversation. For the Bones 5 characters I like them (I like all of Bones 5), and I feel that they could be useful at any size, even if they could be more useful at other sizes. 

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Also regarding the succubi/incubi set: we know the bases are a bit large, but I was under the impression the bases are large to accommodate the poses of the otherwise-normally-sized figures?

 

Or are the figures themselves actually larger than a typical Reaper human?

 

If it's just the bases, then I see absolutely zero issue in using them in a role-playing game*. I'd gladly use a two inch base if the mini was properly evocative of the character, and succubi will rarely be blandly-characterized mooks in my games.

If it's that the figures are actually that much larger than a human, well, I personally still see no issue, but I get why some do.

 

 

 

*Obviously some issue with base size if you want a succubus warband for Frostgrave or some other wargame.

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On 11/16/2019 at 12:47 AM, ksbsnowowl said:

Which is fine for a Large monster. The early D&D pre-paints were on 40mm bases.

 

The problem, uh, is that, um, succubi are Medium...

Exactly. Medium creatures occupying a space outside of a 1" square does become a problem.

22 hours ago, Disserrma said:

Don't forget some of the succubi/incubus are laying down so imho it makes sense for those to have larger bases and still be medium and would be unrealistic on the 1in bases.

I have a pewter Sophie dressed up in an outfit reminiscent of "Slave Leia" who's laying down, but she's still on a 1" base. She has a minor bit of overhang, but she's still occupying roughly the same space on the map as any other medium-sized creature.

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35 minutes ago, Sanael said:

*Obviously some issue with base size if you want a succubus warband for Frostgrave or some other wargame.

 

While other games do, Frostgrave doesn't have any basing standards or figure size standards. Use whatever you have, the base is as big as it is, and if you can see any part of the figure from the point of view of the shooter/caster, you can see the figure.

 

18 minutes ago, Disciple of Sakura said:

Exactly. Medium creatures occupying a space outside of a 1" square does become a problem.

 

Never has been for me, or at least no more than 1" based figures in tight spaces when using 3D terrain. Putting a figure (based any way at all) on stairs or climbing is more annoying. But it's never impeded game play for me; there's always some way to handwave away the issues.

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On 11/16/2019 at 5:46 AM, criticalhit said:

Overgourd = Could use as Beholder, but also kind of goofy

Whimsical. The word is whimsical. 

 

I like whimsy. 

 

Was it confirmed somewhere that the Overgourd is (will be) a flying (floating)  creature?

 

—I did see the concept art. 

—Floating about like an Eyebeast was my first thought and guess. 

—But slithering about or lurching along like some landbound Octopus from an enchanted pumpkin patch was my second guess.

 

I like Overgourd however he/it winds up moving. 

 

Either way, I think he will fit in nicely with Rotpatch the Pumpkin Golem/Construct.

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36 minutes ago, Doug Sundseth said:

 

While other games do, Frostgrave doesn't have any basing standards or figure size standards. Use whatever you have, the base is as big as it is, and if you can see any part of the figure from the point of view of the shooter/caster, you can see the figure.

 

 

Never has been for me, or at least no more than 1" based figures in tight spaces when using 3D terrain. Putting a figure (based any way at all) on stairs or climbing is more annoying. But it's never impeded game play for me; there's always some way to handwave away the issues.

Frostgrave also doesn't use a grid, any more than Mordheim does, or Vanguard does.

 

I think the grid makes people think the base sizes matter more than they really do. Put them base to base and call them close enough.

 

Most of our minis are on 3/4" bases, so the odd monster or character on a bigger base isn't a huge problem.

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1 minute ago, TGP said:

Whimsical. The word is whimsical. 

 

I like whimsy. 

 

Was it confirmed somewhere that the Overgourd is (will be) a flying (floating)  creature?

 

—I did see the concept art. 

—Floating about like an Eyebeast was my first thought and guess. 

—But slithering about or lurching along like some landbound Octopus from an enchanted pumpkin patch was my second guess.

 

I like Overgourd however he/it winds up moving. 

 

Either way, I think he will fit in nicely with Rotpatch the Pumpkin Golem/Construct.

 Grump has a pumpkin themed dungeon floorplan. I have no idea WHY but this model was shown the next day. <_<

 

GIANT_montage-7.jpg

 

I think the kids will be sent to kill the Great Pumpkin or something.

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5 hours ago, Bane Of Humanity said:

because I NEED a Succubi army for my brothel damn it!

 

Yeah, how else am I going to staff The Fatal Blow?

 

1 hour ago, QueenOfChalices said:

It always seems to me that logically a human sized creature with wings ought to count as a larger size to allow for the wingspan.

 

Logical or not, that's not how D&D treats creature size. A human-sized creature with a 20-foot wingspan is still Medium. Heck, there is a magic item that used to give a character a 20-foot wingspan (wings of flying), but the character was always treated as their original size. 

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3 minutes ago, ksbsnowowl said:

Logical or not, that's not how D&D treats creature size. A human-sized creature with a 20-foot wingspan is still Medium. Heck, there is a magic item that used to give a character a 20-foot wingspan (wings of flying), but the character was always treated as their original size. 

I mean, reasonably, the space you occupy is the area you can effectively completely prevent someone from entering as you rotate and move without them starting a grapple. Unless a human-sized winged creature is waving their wings around constantly, opening them up to being severely injured in a fight, they probably wouldn't be factored in to the space occupied on the map anyway.

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Variances in height are fine. As said, a human that is 5' is not unusual next to a human that is 6' or even 7'. But in D&D they would all 3 be medium creatures. The base sizes should be the same. Though admittedly because i use minis from several sources my medium bases are 25mm, 30mm or 32mm. I use to have a good source for 30mm (the old confrontation bases) so all of my heroes, major villains and important npcs were on 30... while mooks were on 25's.

 

large i also do 40mm - 50mm. A lot if WoK large minis were on 40's... though now with 50's being more available/cheaper, all my newer large are on 50's.

 

If the succubi/incubi are the same general size as a human, then i will just rebase them.  

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3 hours ago, QueenOfChalices said:

It always seems to me that logically a human sized creature with wings ought to count as a larger size to allow for the wingspan.

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