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6 minutes ago, Zink said:

 

I liked that set until you mentioned the portcullis. Oh well, I think I can fix up something.


Sorry! :wacko:

Though I agree that it wouldn’t be too hard to create the remains of the rest of the portcullis sticking out of the top. 
 

 

In other news... I just saw the new pirate ship photos in tonight’s update; and wow! 
 

“I do not need a 36” pirate ship... I do not need a 36” pirate ship... I do not need a 36” inch pirate ship...”

 

Now I just have to continually repeat that to myself through to Jan 31st! :blink:

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9 hours ago, SamuraiJack said:

May still add Nathavarr the Ravenous, Dragon since i want to unload my second DDS2..


...dang no commerce rule...

 

Been trying to find one for months. 

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feels nice that im not going crazy buying ships for this kickstarter :D

 

that said, i got the print files for the 31 inch illithid nautiloid spelljammer/astral ship from that patreon (even though i dont have a printer yet) hehehe soooo...

 

22 hours ago, ksbsnowowl said:

 

Just so many other things to spend money on (other Kickstarters, Black Friday sales, etc).  Got myself a Vex airbrush for Christmas, which will definitely help with the ships... :ik_oops:

 

would you be able to post your vex tests when you start using it? like various swirls, small and large dots, thick and thin lines? and the thinnest line you can manage, etc?

 

sanjay

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10 minutes ago, StarFyre said:

 

would you be able to post your vex tests when you start using it? like various swirls, small and large dots, thick and thin lines? and the thinnest line you can manage, etc?

 

sanjay


Eventually, sure. It won’t be until January at the earliest that I’ll have the Vex, and an air compressor, and get some sort of spray booth set up. But I definitely intend to practice before I start any important projects with it, so I could probably try to take a short video showing my newb attempt at using it. 

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9 minutes ago, ksbsnowowl said:


Eventually, sure. It won’t be until January at the earliest that I’ll have the Vex, and an air compressor, and get some sort of spray booth set up. But I definitely intend to practice before I start any important projects with it, so I could probably try to take a short video showing my newb attempt at using it. 

 

thanks. ive seen a couple people ask for that as well from new users.   some are a bit hesitant cause the folks talking so highly of it are experienced users, many airbrushes would be great for them to use.

 

i spoke to aaron about it. he suggested for me not to get one as i already have an intro airbrush (patriot 105, with various needles) and a high end fine detail airbrush so vex wont help me much, but would like to see how it compares to patriot as im fairly new to using airbrushes as well. 

 

last week i did a 2 hour practice session and today an even finer needle arrived for it. should be interesting.

 

playing with thinning, etc for it. but i generally just use inks in them so not much thinning needed, if any.

 

i do see a difference between the 2 brushes, so curious how the vex really is in relation.

 

i still dont have a compressor of my own. using a friends.

 

sanjay

 

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This should be my last add for Bones 5:

 

Power Up: Hippocampus Figurehead Option x1

Option: Song of the Sirens x1

Opton: Kaiju Chaos x1

Base Boss 1" Round RPG Bases x1

 

This was added on top of my previous haul:

Bones 5 Core Set x1

Extra Walls of Stone x1

Extra Walls of Thorns x1

Power Up: Demonic Legion Option x1

Henchwomen x1

Valfuryx x1

Dragon Folk x1

Townsfolk x1

Dragon Bust x1

Aganzarax x1

Troll Bridge Encounter x1

Mammoth x1

Yokai x1

Ballista x1

Goroloth x1

Trebuchet x1

Shavynra the Slayer x1

Storm Giant x1

Rune Wights x1

Arakoth the Ancient x1

Elemental Scions x1

Encounter at Gallowgard x1

The Dwarf King's Crypt x1

Dungeon Dwellers x1

Encounter at Mandupar Pass x1

Option: Encounter - Shadows of Ravenhome x2

Option: Demonic Temptation x1

Kalanzar the Wicked x1

Henchmen and Hirelings x1

Greek Odyssey Expansion x1

Dark Depths Expansion x1

Brinewind Expansion x1

Base Boss 1" Round RPG Bases x3

Chronoscope Expansion x1

Fan Favorites x1

 

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12 hours ago, StarFyre said:

 

thanks. ive seen a couple people ask for that as well from new users.   some are a bit hesitant cause the folks talking so highly of it are experienced users, many airbrushes would be great for them to use.

 

i spoke to aaron about it. he suggested for me not to get one as i already have an intro airbrush (patriot 105, with various needles) and a high end fine detail airbrush so vex wont help me much, but would like to see how it compares to patriot as im fairly new to using airbrushes as well. 

 

last week i did a 2 hour practice session and today an even finer needle arrived for it. should be interesting.

 

playing with thinning, etc for it. but i generally just use inks in them so not much thinning needed, if any.

 

i do see a difference between the 2 brushes, so curious how the vex really is in relation.

 

i still dont have a compressor of my own. using a friends.

 

sanjay

 

So, you have a patriot 105 and sotar 2020? And Aaron said not to get the Vex? That helps, as I already have that set also (plus a few Paasche's and a few anthem's but those are for my T-shirt airbrushing:) ), may get a Vex somewhere down the line for the ease of use not needing both airbrushes.

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A 60 sec clip from Friday, showing the pirate ship decks a bit. 
 

https://clips.twitch.tv/DifferentFineChowderFunRun

 

Reaper should get a production copy in the mail on Monday, and they plan to make a video about it. 

 

A few other points of interest from Friday’s show:


As of the time I’m posting this, everyone should have closed out their initial order and used up all their KS credited funds. If you have not, you may well get bumped to the last shipping wave. Or find that the things you want are no longer available (see next paragraph).
 

Reaper has already submitted their final numbers to the factory. You can continue to add things and pay for them through the end of January, but as things begin to “sell out” and the numbers sold approach the numbers produced, Reaper will begin to turn items off in the PM. The first things likely to get turned off will be the core set extras (“extra gem dragon,” “extra dread wraiths,” etc.)

 

The following statement by Ron was not definite, but it was ominous: The pirate ship is rather expensive to produce. It may never be brought to retail. So if you want it, you’d better order it now. 
 

The Henchmen and Henchwomen will be sold as a single set at retail. The 4 elemental scions will be sold as a single set at retail (the $12 add-on, plus the Air Scion genie from Fan Favorites).

 

That’s all the big relevant stuff I can recall at the moment. 

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19 hours ago, Ratmaster2000 said:

So, you have a patriot 105 and sotar 2020? And Aaron said not to get the Vex? That helps, as I already have that set also (plus a few Paasche's and a few anthem's but those are for my T-shirt airbrushing:) ), may get a Vex somewhere down the line for the ease of use not needing both airbrushes.

 

i re-read my post. it wasnt clear.

 

no, i have a Patriot 105 with 3 needles (standard, detail, fine detail) sent to me by Matthieu Fontaine (who also helped with suggestions on the Vex as he was one of the first mini painters in north america using air brushes on models AFAIK). he said it would be good for me to base coat models with (my method of base coating takes forever as i basecoat in super thin layers almost like trying to basecoat with washes and glazes) to guarantee a super smooth finish.  Since, as people here know, i prefer larger monsters, it takes FOREVER to paint stuff i care about since just base coating can take days.  hence i wanted an airbrush :D

 

my detail brush is an Iwata Custom Micron CM-C+ and i got the smaller needle/nozzle for it from the Micron CM-SB2 (side container version  -its compatible with the CM-C+) although the current needle on the CM-C+ is pretty awesome.  I managed to get the brush itself and its accessories it comes with, for about 30-35% off normal price (so a huge savings).  I wasnt going to get a detail brush, but i liked base coating with the patriot so decided let me try to do more work (ie. basic shadows/highlights, tints,etc) with the airbrush to save time and get those nice smooth results and then go to manual brush, etc after.

 

I was looking at the Harder and Steenbeck Infinity CR plus (which i could get at a store here) but then saw some online ebay stores selling the Iwatas. i sent an offer and they surprisingly accepted. i think due to covid and this was feb 2020, their sales may have tanked and were just trying to get as much cash in as they could so they accepted.  (this store was in Asia). 

 

Anyways, what Aaron said in more detail.  he would certainly replace the 105 with the vex once i got more practice with airbrushing and wanted something nicer than the 105. its an all round better brush in his opinion and it can do better detail work and has that double use nozzle, etc. BUT he pointed out, I dont need a detail airbrush since i got a micron. So the benefit of having a 2 in 1 brush (Vex) isnt going to replace the Micron even though it would replace the 105.  In the end, not worth it for me he said. dont bother unless i just want to have a spare brush or something bad happens to my patriot.  

 

I have held a sotar but never used it.  Also held the CR plus.  ive just used the 105 and the micron.  I do notice the difference from the 2 but for the price difference, i hope to hell there's a difference hehe.     A lot of ppl suggest the Harder and Steenbeck Infinity Cr...  

 

My thought is, if the patriot breaks, i would maybe get a vex as the replacement. That said, i really like the feel of the CR Plus.    One of the tutorials i watch and people i speak to is Angel Giraldez.  Check out his youtube channel.  He uses an Infinity CR Plus (he's in europe and since they are made in germany, its easier for them to get over there) and loves it.  He also base coats with it, regardless of model size from what ive seen. so maybe, while it may take longer, i would just base coat larger models more carefully with my iwata even if the patriot did break so dont need to have 2. 

 

In the end, it does seem like the Vex is good if you want a new airbrush in that price range to replace similar or more basic airbrushes but if you already have a general brush and a detail brush you dont NEED a vex. (unless you sell the 2, to pick up the one and save space). If you have a higher end airbrush, no point at all. 

 

sanjay

 

 

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14 hours ago, ksbsnowowl said:

The following statement by Ron was not definite, but it was ominous: The pirate ship is rather expensive to produce. It may never be brought to retail. So if you want it, you’d better order it now. 

 

This is almost swaying me. (': I haven't ordered the ship since I am not that big into terrain and mostly use flat assets but it'd be a shame if it never comes to retail.

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45 minutes ago, PhantomAsh said:

 

This is almost swaying me. (': I haven't ordered the ship since I am not that big into terrain and mostly use flat assets but it'd be a shame if it never comes to retail.

 

 

I find the "now or never" acquisition aspect is putting up a strong fight against the rational realization that I would probably only ever use it two, maybe three, times on the game table; and then it would just sit and take up (a lot of!) space.    

 

The fact my table top gaming is dried up to virtually nothing this past year has helped me stand firm so far, but I worry about a weak moment... 

 

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The fact the ship may not go to retail, which is not verified, would be interesting for those who want to flip ships.  I'm not planning on it, but I'm sure you could raise a little money that way.  I am curious how people have done in the past trying to flip Bones products.

 

I find the idea they might not retail it odd.  Obviously I don't understand the ins and outs of plastic manufacturing, though.  Maybe it does make sense to retire a mold after one big run?

 

Once I heard retail may not happen, I had to reassess priorities.  As far as I know, they haven't said that about anything else in Bones 5, so purchasing anything else later should be possible. 

 

 

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16 hours ago, ksbsnowowl said:

The following statement by Ron was not definite, but it was ominous: The pirate ship is rather expensive to produce. It may never be brought to retail. So if you want it, you’d better order it now. 

 

The big things are nice cap pieces for the kickstarter, but will generally move pretty slowly at retail because of their high price tag.  Combined, of course, with the fact that many interested parties would likely have nabbed one during the kickstarter itself.  The combination of high retail price and lower base demand does logically make waiting on retail somewhat risky.  Therefore my recommendation would be to get it now if you think you might want it.  

 

Disclaimer:  I am not privy to any more information than anyone else is, but I would expect that at least some small quantity of the ship will eventually make a retail appearance.  However, these would essentially be "beyond fulfillment extras" and once gone, it's anybody's guess when (or if) a restock would be ordered.  Either way, the safest bet is to get one now.  

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7 minutes ago, Serenity said:

The fact the ship may not go to retail, which is not verified, would be interesting for those who want to flip ships.  I'm not planning on it, but I'm sure you could raise a little money that way.  I am curious how people have done in the past trying to flip Bones products.

 


I have been looking to get a Bones 4 Stygian Barge (I have the Dungeon Magazine Savage Tide AP I plan to run someday, and in the last part the party sails the River Styx), and one popped up on eBay last month. I bid on it a few times, but let it go at $65.  It was $30 in the KS. 
 

Based on the recent MSRP pricing of Baba Yaga’s Hut ($60 vs $20 in the KS), the Stygian Barge is going to be at least $60, but passing on the eBay sale let me throw more money at Bones 5 now, so it’s a wash to me in the end. 
 

I’ve seen Bones 4 core sets going for ~$200 on eBay. 


I find Buglips’ assessment of the economics of things like the Pirate Ship to be spot-on. I imagine it’s why Reaper isn’t looking to restock Dragons Don’t Share any time soon. 
 

If you want the ship, get it now. 

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the bones ship would have to sell for less than the wizkids one right? otherwise ppl would just get that one... (even though the bones one seems better)

 

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