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Sad to see how this one is going. In theory, a company that doesn’t renege on its KS obligations even when things get tough (as with MBP 1.5) and that is honest about how much funding it takes a project to succeed on its own without creating a multiple-KS pyramid scheme is the sort of company that should be rewarded. Especially when the quality of its products is quite high.

 

But in this case, they seem to have mistaken the desires of their core audience (board gamers) without successfully appealing to a new audience (wargamers). And there are indications that, if this one fails to fund, they may have to fold after delivering their last Batman KS (product currently on the water). So just unfortunate all around. 

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Monolith is essentially Fred Henry, and he's indicated that he wants VS mode, not Adventure mode.

 

So, I guess if 700K of backer money agrees with this, he provides a game and miniatures his backers want. If not enough backers want the game for it to be financially viable, then he doesn't.

 

I don't think it's entirely unfortunate. If the funding fails, then Fred Henry won't lose any more money than he already has with Monolith. 

 

Component quality is high, but I believe there have been bad business decisions and falling out with other company investors and members, such as Mythic, that led up to this point.

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Guy apparently mortgaged his house to make sure MBP 1.5 could be fully delivered after it ran into problems. KS is littered with projects where the creators faced the same situation and instead let the entire project fall apart (often while pretending for years afterward that some miracle would eventually happen and they would deliver). Guess I’m still going to feel it is unfortunate his vision doesn’t seem to be working out for him when he put that much on the line to get here. 

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The preview page of this project was visible a couple of days and people could comment. The majority was critical and voiced exactly the reservations backers are voicing now (and probably the reasons why this isn't doing better). Monolith should have been warned. I do not see this project in a very positive light. Besides my personal grumblings, I'm even starting to see some red flags.

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7 minutes ago, Disciple of Sakura said:

I'm having trouble figuring out if it's possible to just get an add-on without getting the main system. Can anyone else tell?

 

I'd say that it is possible if you look at the wording of the $1 pledge: " This pledge level allows you to pick and choose what you want, and then decide on your pledge level € total. Make your selection, add it all up, hit the “manage my pledge” button and directly enter that amount as your pledge. "

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1 hour ago, Knight of the Dinner Table said:

Cancelled.

What the absolute heck? They weren't even live for a day, and cancelled it with time to go, because they hadn't made their goal already?

 

Ugh. What a frustrating process. To heck with this.

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Truly a baffling and disorganized project from a company with an established track record.  A real head-scratcher this one.  I couldn't make heads or tails of it after several attempts to decipher the page.  Were they trying to fail?

 

EDIT: Although that last update is pretty good and makes up for the weird project, to some degree. 

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5 hours ago, Knight of the Dinner Table said:

The preview page of this project was visible a couple of days and people could comment. The majority was critical and voiced exactly the reservations backers are voicing now (and probably the reasons why this isn't doing better). Monolith should have been warned. I do not see this project in a very positive light. Besides my personal grumblings, I'm even starting to see some red flags.

 

I figured he opened the KS just in case the critical comments did not voice the true thoughts of all potential backers, once it became obvious that those critical comments did voice the majority of potential backers he closed it.

 

I just hope they have better luck with Mythic Battles Ragnarök

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7 hours ago, Tasso said:

Guy apparently mortgaged his house to make sure MBP 1.5 could be fully delivered after it ran into problems. KS is littered with projects where the creators faced the same situation and instead let the entire project fall apart (often while pretending for years afterward that some miracle would eventually happen and they would deliver). Guess I’m still going to feel it is unfortunate his vision doesn’t seem to be working out for him when he put that much on the line to get here. 

 

It wasn't for MBP, it was for this campaign. If you read his statement, because BtM was risky, and his project, he took out a loan on his house so that if it didn't work, Monolith wouldn't suffer.

2 hours ago, Disciple of Sakura said:

What the absolute heck? They weren't even live for a day, and cancelled it with time to go, because they hadn't made their goal already?

 

Ugh. What a frustrating process. To heck with this.

 

It went live on Monday, so up for two days (I know, that's nitpicky), but the preview was also up for two weeks before that.

There were more pledges for legacy content than there were for BtM content, and the whole point of the campaign was to launch BtM. Essentially what he did was set his pride aside to listen to what the backers were saying which was basically two things:

1. They want more content for Adventure Mode and to be able to get the things they missed in the first Conan campaign

2. They thought the campaign was confusing and didn't understand the point of BtM (and in his statement he takes full accountability for this).

 

Here's the official statement from the update after the cancellation:

 

Hello,

First of all, I would like to thank everyone who followed us and participated in this campaign. 250K remains a very nice sum and I am fully aware that many designers would love to reach these numbers. However, as high as it is, this amount would unfortunately not cover the development and licensing costs necessary for the successful launch of the range.

It is now more than obvious that the Beyond the Monolith offer did not attract enough pledgers to complete the project. I had high hopes for the concept and take full, personal responsibility for this failure. As I wrote yesterday on my Facebook page, I was unable to properly explain either the concept or the campaign. I thought the discount system was worthwhile and promising, but it quickly became obvious that it didn’t make sense to people and was not an appetizing incentive. I had hoped that the large drop in prices on existing models would outweigh negative reactions to offering duplicates. Again, this was a monumental mistake. I thought that setting a realistic funding threshold in relation to the project’s costs would express our respect and seriousness. [aa1] I made transparency and communication a priority and worked hard to explain the choices we made. Unfortunately, due to my poor language skills, I was only able to do this on French-speaking social networks.

Is a relaunch possible?

Yes. But it is now obvious that between BTM and Conan's Adventure mode, the pledgers' hearts are overwhelmingly with the latter.

If there is a relaunch, the offer will have to be completely revised. Put aside BTM (Who knows? Maybe in a few years, with some work and the right formula...), focus on Adventure Mode only (including Matt’s solo/co-op system), and give the Conan community what it wants.

I would also like to make it clear that Matt John continuously maintained that we should focus on Adventure mode. We often disagreed, but he has always been the voice of the community. He was right and I was wrong. When I took over the reins of Monolith, I mistakenly distanced myself from the community. He did not. Today, I wish I had listened to him. I know that he often took it upon himself to announce unpopular decisions that were mine. I would like to thank him publicly for his tenacity, which in the end convinced me that I was on the wrong track and that there was no point in being stubborn.

As far as I'm concerned, today, “down for the count”... But I will get back up. As many of you know, given the experimental nature of the campaign, I financed it entirely from my personal savings so as not to burden Monolith with the risk—I gambled and lost. “That’s Poker”

We have to proceed in order. Right now, I'm going to focus on getting Batman Season 2 properly delivered. Production has left China and is heading to the Hubs. Here's the shipment schedule:

-  Australia (Aetherworks): The ship left China on January 13th and will arrive in Sydney on the 24th.

-  Canada (Snake n’ Lattes): The ship left China on January 9th and is expected to arrive in Toronto on February 5th.

-  Europe (Meeple Logistique): The ship left China on January 6th and is expected to arrive in Antwerp on the 31st.

-  USA (Fun Again): The ship left China on January 11th and delivery to Indianapolis is expected shortly after February 6th.

-  Asia: The shipment is being transported by truck to the VFI Asia warehouses and should arrive in early February.

Then, once the boxes have reached our pledgers, I will  launch the new Conan KS, which this time, I hope, will be what the community is looking for (I will listen Matt). It will most likely be a smaller, less ambitious campaign, but, after a fall, I prefer to get up slowly.

Thank you for your understanding and for all your support and feedback.

Fred Henry.

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I'm not. Fred Henry wants to do things right, but his way. That means a discount for those who will receive duplicates, but it ends up complicated and some backers still don't want duplicates. It means trying to satisfy different audiences, making the campaign itself complicated and gathering complaints because not all demands are feasible. It means a campaign tailored towards a skirmish game (Beyond the Monolith), except that many backers wanted a dungeoncrawler (Adventure Mode).

 

But it does sound like Fred Henry has not given up. I was under the impression that he wasn't interested in supporting Adventure Mode at all. So, yeah, maybe Monolith *can* pull this one together... 

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I'm a miniature painter and couldn't really figure out what to buy for the new Conan miniatures. Sigh. Hopefully the next one does it better.

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