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Bones Kraken - Pin the post??

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For those that have put this one together.... did you secure the post that the Kraken is mounted on? It seems to want to slowly sag down, and I'm uncertain how I would insert a pin THAT LONG. 

Should I pin it? Should I just not worry about it? 

This is being put together as a gift for a friend.

Thoughts?

 

 

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I have not done this yet, but as mine is sagging, I am thinking of fixing it by cutting a groove all along the post, inserting a stiff and strong enough rod (steel or brass tubing should do the trick) and then using putty to smooth the rod.

 

or maybe just find a rod/tube of about the same thickness as the original post, and switch it out completely. Then use some putty to make the rod look less like a rod and more like a post.

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I wonder if this would be a good application for a mixed media figure?  Say, mold all of it in Bones material, but make the long parts that tend to sag out of metal.  Not sure what the cost of such a thing would be but I imagine the metal would not have the sag problem I've heard mention of on bigger figs like this.

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On 1/6/2020 at 6:27 PM, Maledrakh said:

I have not done this yet, but as mine is sagging, I am thinking of fixing it by cutting a groove all along the post, inserting a stiff and strong enough rod (steel or brass tubing should do the trick) and then using putty to smooth the rod.

 

or maybe just find a rod/tube of about the same thickness as the original post, and switch it out completely. Then use some putty to make the rod look less like a rod and more like a post.

Good call on the groove along the post. I may try that.  As an alternative, I could use a metal rod and then sculpt the other bits (rope, etc) as best I can.

 

11 hours ago, Rignes said:

I wonder if this would be a good application for a mixed media figure?  Say, mold all of it in Bones material, but make the long parts that tend to sag out of metal.  Not sure what the cost of such a thing would be but I imagine the metal would not have the sag problem I've heard mention of on bigger figs like this.

Agreed! The bones material just doesn't hold the weight necessary to support the Kraken. It's a shame since the sculpt is really cool. I think I'll try what Maledrakh mentioned and insert metal along the length and cover it with putty.

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1 hour ago, Gadgetman! said:

How long and thick is the sagging part?

 

Is it me or did this just take a decidedly sexual turn...

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It would take some specialized tools to drill out such a post as it is maybe 4-5mm in diameter and maybe 12-14cms long.

 

I find that drilling out long and thin bones bits to be more or less practically impossible as the bones material does not really want to be drilled, the material twists around the drillbit, and you get torque and sideways pressure that might snap the drillbit, especially the long thin ones. Or it overheats and melts which causes a whole other slew of problems.

 

heating a long pin and forcing it in is also a method people mention, but how to keep it from verring out the side at some point?

 

 

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What would you guys think if Reaper molded a track or trough of some sort into the side of load bearing pieces?  I'm thinking if they did we could add our own support wire and then cover up the area with something like Green Stuff.  If it's not cost prohibitive maybe they could include both a solid piece without the cut out and one with so we can choose.

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My kraken was sagging so I had a go at drilling and pinning. I used a long drill bit in a pin vice and drilled it by hand, which worked fine until I realised I hadn't gone in quite straight (oo er) and the bit came out the side!

 

Thankfully I'd gone far enough that the brass rod I put in seems to have dealt with the sag! So be careful if you're going to go for it!

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I'm going to try and carve out a groove on the underside, put a brass pin in place, and then fill the remainder in with green stuff. I'm on the road right now, but when I get back home that's my plan of attack.

 

I'll take some photos of the journey and post them here so we can all learn from my mistakes.... er steps. :lol:

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A quick search on the Bay of Evil found someone selling 200mm long 3mm diameter drill bits...   

A further search located 2mm diamter 200mm long drill bits...     

 

The trick is to hold your fingers in the area where the point of the drill bit is. Then you can feel if it's close enough to break through.

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20 hours ago, Gadgetman! said:

A quick search on the Bay of Evil found someone selling 200mm long 3mm diameter drill bits...   

A further search located 2mm diamter 200mm long drill bits...     

 

The trick is to hold your fingers in the area where the point of the drill bit is. Then you can feel if it's close enough to break through.

Awesome.  Thanks, @Gadgetman! I get back to town next week and will be looking to try some things on Wednesday night most likely. I'll take a look at the drill bits while I'm on the road!

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