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On 8/1/2020 at 10:56 AM, Corporea said:

Is there anything folks want to get out of a bust class?  Any areas that are troublesome or hurdles you're having trouble getting over?  I want to make sure I cover everything I can.

 

Thanks guys!!


I have one bust.


His name is Rollo the Viking or Rollo the Dane, depends on who you ask. So, if I signed up for your class I would probably try to do some work on him, while listening in for tips that might be applicable. 

 

Voting for which to do would need to happen ahead of the event (?) to give people time to acquire the chosen sculpt. 
 

This is Rollo as seen on the box art:

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( FeR is the brand, but I got my copy from Scale 75, last one)

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On 8/1/2020 at 11:56 AM, Corporea said:

I'm going to test out Bust Painting, because this seems like the best format.  Busts are generally cost-prohibitive for teaching because they're darned expensive.  On average they're probably $50.  That would make it hard to run an in-person class and keep it affordable.  So, I think of this as the silver lining to our current situation.  I can demo it!

 

If you want to do this in person next year, once I have my resin printer I could probably arrange something.. I've got a LOT of bust STLs and there are some good practice ones out there

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I can acquire the Sarah Kilmister in time for a class.  Please let us know if that bust is your choice.

 

And, was there not talk of class packages -- minis and paints and supplies and such.  Has anyone seen any more info on that?

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1 hour ago, SamuraiJack said:

 

If you want to do this in person next year, once I have my resin printer I could probably arrange something.. I've got a LOT of bust STLs and there are some good practice ones out there

 

If the subject is only painting skin on busts, there are generic model that can be used.  There are also torsos, but not sharing due to nudity.

 

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Highlander/TGP: This class will be a demo, so I would not expect people to buy a bust for it. While you can paint along, I'm not structuring it as a paint-along.  I will be moving very quickly to try to get as much work on the bust as possible.  It takes me at least 20-30 hours to finish a bust, so I'm going to be using all my sneaky tricks to paint as fast as I can.  I will explain them, I promise!  So, yes, plan on Sarah Kilmister.  TGP- I have a few male busts in process, so I can show you the differences in how I paint them versus the female figures.  As a general rule, the transitions are sharper.

 

SamuaiJack- Would printing something be legal? Most of those files would stipulate no commercial use, correct?

 

Clearman- I'll have to look into heads. cool!

 

I'm getting excited!!!  yay reapercon!

 

From what I understand on the class kits, they're coming. Reaper asked me what colors and models I was going to use for my other classes, so I know they're planning to have them available.  I listed materials for the other classes in the description I think, though they were almost out of the cloud giantess so I'm using the frost giant queen instead.  That might be wrong in my description.  Not sure how to edit that.   But this new class is a little different.  Hope that helps.

 

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10 minutes ago, Corporea said:

SamuaiJack- Would printing something be legal? Most of those files would stipulate no commercial use, correct?

 

 

Depends on the busts, there are a bunch of free STLs out there similar to what Clearman posted.  I wouldnt be selling them for profit so there's no issue there either..  it's a buy me a sandwich or something situation

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If you go to Bella Nacht's Gumroad website, those busts are free if you enter a code that is shown on the bust itself. I'm not sure of of the licensing thou. You could ask. They have a KS post here on the site.

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13 minutes ago, haldir said:

If you go to Bella Nacht's Gumroad website, those busts are free if you enter a code that is shown on the bust itself. I'm not sure of of the licensing thou. You could ask. They have a KS post here on the site.

 

The busts I posted above are from the Bella Nacht Gumroad website.  They have the torso's as well.

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48 minutes ago, Corporea said:

...using all my sneaky tricks to paint as fast as I can. 

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From what I understand on the class kits, they're coming. Reaper asked me what colors and models I was going to use for my other classes, so I know they're planning to have them available.  ...

To the first part, I use all my sneaky tricks to paint as slow as I can .... and I'm getting slower and slower.  So there.

 

To the second part, thank you.  I had heard nothing and it is already August 4.

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41 minutes ago, Clearman said:

 

The busts I posted above are from the Bella Nacht Gumroad website.  They have the torso's as well.

 

I should have copied your post or the busts themselves, but I was referring to those.

 

If anyone wanted to print one at home to follow along. It might not be the same but being free, you'd only be out the resin you used for it.

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I'm waxing pedantic here so I'll put discussion of licensing and digital rights in a spoiler tag.

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It really depends on the license. I'll preface with I Am Not A Lawyer, but digital rights is something I've been paying a bit of attention to for a few years now. 
Most busts you have purchased will have a variation of a "non-commercial, personal use only" license that means you can only print it for personal use.  Technically that means you can only print it for yourself to use, or for a one off gift. 

 

If you're using it for a class, that is technically not Personal Use.  Now there are some classifications and rules that allow for specific copying  for non commercial education in the absence of an available educational license, but those traditionally apply to written materials, and 3d printing is kind of a fuzzy area where copyright is concerned right now.  However, if you're doing it as part of a convention that the attendees have paid to attend, that technically pushes it into commercial territory, even if there's no additional charge for that specific class.

 

All that being said though, is that if you purchased something under a personal use only license, you can always try to reach out to the rights holder and request an exception. Since this is for a class and for a limited distribution, I have a feeling that many would probably be enthusiastic about it, but some might only ask for a nominal fee.  There would be outliers that would require you to purchase the commercial license however.  

 

All of this is moot if you already have a commercial license.  Most of those may prohibit distributing the digital file, but the printed versions of it you can usually sell or give away how you see fit (the license may have some specific distribution requirements that you'll need to be aware of but that can vary quite a bit)


Interestingly, that Bella Nacht bust, I can't find a specific license on GumRoad, but on his MyMiniFactory page she specifies a Creative Commons Attribution Non Commercial license, which basically means you can share it for free and you can alter it and distribute it as long as whatever you make from it keeps the same license terms, however you cannot use it for anything commercial.

That said, there ARE lots of items with appropriate license that can be used.  Thingiverse makes it really easy to see what kind of license you're dealing with and does allow designers several choices.  For example, I just looked up the "Elf Archer Bust" by Midost that I've seen many others print, and it is licensed under a Creative Commons - Attribution 4.0 license. (details in link) There's no prohibition against commercial use, only that you have to give credit to the original artist.  If there were a handout with the class that says "We will be painting the Elf Archer bust sculpted by Midost on Thingiverse, found at >link here<" That actually meets the terms of the license.  Notifying the original sculptor would be a courtesy, but not technically required.

 

 

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I would also guess we could ask one of the digital sculptors if they have anything basic you could use for a class..

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So how do we register for classes?

The links on the class schedule say "Register @ Zoom", but all they do is launch Zoom, which tells us that the meeting doesn't start until the class/date time. 

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Also, all of the Monday classes appear to be missing. :unsure:

 

EDIT: Ah good, they've been added. ^_^

 

Huzzah!

--OneBoot :D

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