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2 hours ago, Orlando_the_Technicoloured said:

the big issue with them is they won't be as good at picking up early infections, so if possible doing another series at 3 or 5 days is a good idea

 

True of even the more reliable tests. A certain viral quantity is needed for detection in the first place. The rapid ones are good for large group screening. If 0 people out of 20 come back positive, the workers are probably fine. If 1 out of 20 come back positive, everyone should isolate, test with a more precise method, and then again a few days later. It isn't that the rapid tests are bad, just that they don't have enough accuracy for an "all clear" after a single one.

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1 hour ago, pcktlnt said:

So 0 positives out of about 50 people is good news?

 

Tentatively, yes. Especially if the result is the same in 3-5 days. Whoever Contaminated Worker was could've exposed someone, and the rapid tests went out before detectability occurred. But that may be remediable with contact tracing to pin down who was in close contact, not everyone.

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As of the 21st of this month:

 

The Oregon Health Authority on Thursday reported 849 new confirmed or presumptive coronavirus cases and 11 more fatalities as cases and hospitalizations continued a slow downward trend.

Thursday marked the fifth day in a row with fewer than 850 cases. The positive trajectory stands in stark contrast to state modeling two weeks ago that suggested cases could rise this month.

Oregon is expected to release new modeling Friday, when Gov. Kate Brown will hold a news conference to discuss the latest in the state’s response to the pandemic

 

Malheur County had 18 new cases.

 

 

My mom told me my aunt & uncle (80s) are scheduled to get the vaccine shot sometime soon. They live in New York state.

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I don't really know what the stats are for my area. Or what colour code we are in. Or if we do color-codes. 

Businesses that can operate as drive-thrus are going full bore with being drive-thrus.

 

People are mostly just getting on with life, albeit wearing masks. Mask wearing is a bit hit or miss, some people are simply ninnys when it come to following instructions / wearing the masks properly.

 

I've had three family members test positive. With mixed results. There is a good chance one was a false positive. But an older cousin battled the disease for about two weeks.

 

Vaccines are being rolled out. Most healthcare personnel have had dose 1. Civilians are being vaccinated. The local "usual-suspects-political-rabble-rousers" have been whinging and carping about whether access is fair for each their own narrow constituency.  (I have decided that no matter what happened or what was done, these useless beggars would find a way to complain.)

 

A few of my extended family members have gotten vaccinated. And closer to homeI got Dose Number One of the Pfizer variant Saturday afternoon.

 

So what was that like?

 

It was being run out of a medium sized medical clinic.

It was logistically complicated to get in and out of the place.

  • The building really was not designed to through-put so many people as they are trying to do in a day.

They used a strict do-not-show-up-without-a-pre-scheduled appointment system.

They had you check in with a text message from the car park.

They used a text message to signal you to go inside when it was your turn.

They took you straight back to a small room, vetted and verified things on a computer and then:

One shot, choose either arm:

 

It was Pain-Less. Needle was: tiny, dinky, ittle-bitty, wee small silver cat whisker. PUNY. Needle.

 

I did not even feel it.

No reactions or side effects.

They made everyone sit for fifteen minutes in "vaccine jail" to watch for allergic reactions.

They said it might be sore around the site the next day; so far nothing. (Or at least nothing greater than the usual and normal levels of arthritis and soreness that I have ALL. THE. TIME. We'll see. Maybe further into Sunday I will have more to report.)

I am supposed to go back in two weeks for Dose Number 2.

 

 

Almost forgot, I was issued a little card, with an official looking CDC logo on it.

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Nothing further to report. Checked for soreness several times. Nada. 
 

Other stuff hurting badly though, lower back on the right side was hurting really bad late Sunday and deep into the dark hours of Monday morning. ::(: Cause unknown. 
 

Injection was on upper left arm; back pain lower right side, conclusion: unrelated. 

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The Govnah recently said "extreme" (ie us) counties businesses can have up to 6 people in their stores now. There were some other things as well, but overall kinda ehh, whatever. Still no inside restaurants & other things that were taken away 2 weeks before Turkey Day last year. Of course thou, she declared prisoners get vaccines before allot of people that SHOULD be getting them first, but what do I know. I'll stop here as this could easily get into "beekeeper" territory if you know what I mean.


Good news is my mom & dad got their first shot last Saturday!!! They hung around vaccine distribution place & was able to take advantage of the left overs. Good for them. My dad is highly susceptible to the flu, so him getting a shot is very good thing.

 

Who knows when my wife, my daughter or me will get it (all 3 of us are in retail business), my son is 18 but he doesn't work yet nor goes out really anymore.

 

What's annoying right now is there is a gym, who shut down before, but said they were staying open due to they couldn't afford to shutter. There are cars & people side by side inside. This has been going on, basically since Turkey Day last year. City hasn't done anything to them & I highly doubt they will (all part of that eastern OR mentality), sigh.

 

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/fff9f83827c5461583cd014fdf4587de

(my county tops the list at 3,293, it's funny the 3 border counties around us, don't even come close to HALF of our total!!!)

 

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We've moved from being the state with the fewest % vaccinated to the 3rd lowest, so there is progress. I'm off to ask my immunologist today,. 

 

They are prioritizing all institutional residents and staff here, too.  Anyone who lives in close quarters, or works in those conditions. 

 

 

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Provincially, like many other places, cases have been trending downward, so confinement rules are being relaxed depending on your zone.

 

My zone and the neighboring ones have been lowered to orange, so non-essential goods stores are allowed to open, curfew hours have been improved so it's 9:30 pm-5 am instead of 8 pm-5 am.

 

Local vaccination campaigns are ongoing (Moderna in this area). Though now I have an interesting ethical dillemma. The vaccine is available, easy to book for with a lot of flexibility, but there doesn't seem to be a demand for it anymore.

 

I already had the first dose two weeks ago. Soon, I'll have waited long the recommended 28 days to get the second dose. However, the current policy is to wait 6-8 weeks to meet the limited supply.

 

So I have the opportunity to wait two more weeks, and schedule an appointment for the second dose, without cutting in line or preventing anyone else from getting it, even though "officially" there is no mention of being allowed or not to do this.

 

To further complicate things, I'm quite likely to start my new job next week, in another part of the province (a day's drive), different vaccine (Pfizer), and since I haven't officially moved there, I can't get it. Pushing me to get my local Moderna one ASAP.

 

Ethics can be a PITA when you value fairness.

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4 hours ago, Crowley said:

@Cranky Dog If you aren't cutting in line, and there's plenty to be hand, and your getting it doesn't deprive anyone their chance to get it... what's the issue? A bureaucratic policy isn't a moral imperative. 

It's the whole bureaucracy that may or may not allow it. Since everything is on file digitally, it would be silly for me to book an appointment, show up, and they tell me "Nope, can't do that now."

 

I'll be calling them to explain my situation and see if I can go ahead.

 

EDIT: I just found the relevant official info saying they're only giving "first dose" vaccines and will cancel all other appointments.

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17 minutes ago, Cranky Dog said:

I already had the first dose two weeks ago. Soon, I'll have waited long the recommended 28 days to get the second dose. However, the current policy is to wait 6-8 weeks to meet the limited supply.

 

So I have the opportunity to wait two more weeks, and schedule an appointment for the second dose, without cutting in line or preventing anyone else from getting it, even though "officially" there is no mention of being allowed or not to do this.

 

To further complicate things, I'm quite likely to start my new job next week, in another part of the province (a day's drive), different vaccine (Pfizer), and since I haven't officially moved there, I can't get it. Pushing me to get my local Moderna one ASAP.

Your higher priority is to get your 2nd dose ASAP so that the second dose now allocated to you finds its way into an arm (yours) instead of going begging (until it expires).

 

It is becoming a problem all over: people not turning up for dose 2.

It helps keep things sorted if you don't wait.

Makes it simpler for the folk dispensing the stuff.

 

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Aye - get that second dose when you can.

 

A friend in CO got his second dose and did get hit with the fabled side effect of Headache and Feeling Yucky. But hey, signs the thing is working.

 

Pretty much any post of friends getting vaccinated makes my day better.

 

Any scheme on Who Goes First is a different way of slicing how to manage the pandemic as a whole, more than individuals. X group may be higher risk, but Y group may be more likely to become incubators and transmitters. Vaccinate X first and they will probably die at lower rates when exposed to the virus, but vaccinate Y first and you will expose less people to the virus, lowering deaths. Even if vaccinated people can still carry the virus, they almost certainly carry significantly less, thus transmit less (not coughing, not spewing, yes?). Both scenarios lead to less deaths. Both scenarios lead to more people protected, and this is a *group* effort. It isn't just to protect the individual. Therefore I'm pretty done with being annoyed by "but THEY should go first.... " or "NAHHH THAT GROUP". Because in the end, everyone needs it, and everyone protects each other. A few highest priority standout groups seem to be widely recognized - groups of elderly people, and groups that have extremely limited access to healthcare (like First Nations communities in northern BC and Yukon - they may not be able to get to a hospital if they have an outbreak). After that? Get protecting as many as you can, by *a* method. Having *a* method is more important than *the best by everyone's preference* method.

 

Hopefully not too beekeepery. But eh, sums up my thoughts on why being annoyed at prioritization is overrated.

 

BC's rates are down to under 500 cases/day, but the rate of decline is super slow. It is going down, but inching along. We're keeping our restrictions for the foreseeable future to try to make sure the variant strains don't take hold here. Never had a total Stay At Home order, but this is a long stretch of household-only socialization allowed. Supposedly despite Canada getting minimal vaccine deliveries for the last month, they are optimistic about getting enough for the first quarter of a year and say they'll have mass vaccinations starting in March. BC's overall plan is simply by descending age categories, considering a few small at risk groups to be accelerated potentially. I'll be lucky if I'm vaccinated by July, but that's okay as long as progress keeps being made.

 

In positive personal news? Saw the specialist about the weird throat issue. The lump on my tonsil is a benign cyst that most likely started because of my beloved popcorn scraping it. More trouble than it is worth to have it removed, and it isn't bothersome or growing. Woo. NOT BAD STUFF. Except the part where my favorite snacks are literally the worst for keeping my throat and voice nice....

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8 hours ago, VitM said:

How are y'all getting vaccines?  Our state is only allowing people who are 65+ or frontline healthcare workers to get vaccines.

 

Ours is by what our governor declares. My parents go theirs by standing in line & getting left overs last Saturday. They had to stand outside most of the day, but they got their first shot. I do believe the groups here are healthcare workers, prisoners, teachers & seniors.

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