TGP Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Inarah said: Inarah box has landed at home. Box inspector is not amused to find it full of stuff. Box Inspectors have to maintain an unapproving look of disdain —it's in their contract— and besides if they didn't, their food can-opening, worshipful servitors might get a bit lax with their duties. *** goes back to rummaging through phone's photo stream for pix *** 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buglips*the*goblin Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) After thinking on it some, I realized that my mod explanation on the previous page was somewhat more opaque than I intended. I feel that the most effective moderation we can have is one where the community knows the how and why of why we do things and that, knowing this, people can understand it and not be on tenterhooks wondering where the line is. So if you'll indulge me, I'll elaborate a little. A post was removed that contained the image of Bernie that was making the rounds as the meme some time back, and since we moderated use of that meme then I decided that post was meme-adjacent enough to warrant removal simply as a matter of consistency. This is more of a janitorial thing, and not the sort of thing we would issue any sort of sanction about. The extremely strict moderation of politics pertains specifically to discussion of a political nature, memes of a political nature, and display of political or ideological symbols. These we almost universally axe, and we do that for the reasons outlined in my previous posts, which boil down to a matter of effectively preventing proliferation or attempts to troll around rules. Thus, to give an example, if somebody were to post a picture in acquisitions that they recently bought a zippo lighter with Trump on it, we would zap it on sight. We would also zap the meme of Joe biden being sworn in on a stack of D&D books. So this can be considered one tier, and the harshest one, of what we consider "political" that we do not want. This tier does not require the context of making any particular statement, since there exists no germane reason for it to be a matter of discussion on a miniatures-oriented forum. Primarily this is janitorial, and primarily this is to prevent circumvention or proliferation in the fairest and most consistent manner we can. We do not always catch them ourselves, so if you see something you think breaches this policy then you should report it so we are aware of it. The next tier covers things that are germane to our main topic, which might have additional political implications or statements attached. This is the more lenient tier. So a picture of a 3D-printed Bernie who, in context, is merely Bernie existing with no political statement attached is not something we would moderate. In the same way, we would not moderate somebody's civil war wargame army. Context is taken into account in these cases, and we also try to take intent into account. Nobody is going to get modded for making a Dukes General Lee or anything like that, or for having Bernie chilling in a Zombicide game. But some imagination on the part of the reader could, I'm sure, conjure many examples of the sorts of things we might not want to see. We would perhaps forgive somebody making historical models or dioramas who put swastika flags in where contextually appropriate (such as the final battle in berlin). But we would be less forgiving if somebody were to post an entire platoon of zinnfiguren Hitler Youth and if in our estimation the intent was to get a rise out of people. So there's some discretional leeway that we employ, and I hope you all can see how and why that makes sense. We also do not want to create a hard rule here, since a hard rule would not cover every possible instance. While we have considerable discretional power, we are eager to have your trust that we employ this wisely - this is why I choose to elaborate on things for the sake of transparency. All of you can tell when something seems okay and when something feels hinky and somebody might be trying to stir things up. So can we, and we require some discretion in order to eliminate things in those instances in order to preserve the board for people to enjoy and discuss their shared hobby on. A record is made of moderation actions as an additional check, and we routinely discuss extant policies in order to see if they are working as intended or if we need to adjust things. But one thing I want to be absolutely clear on is this: It is always our preference never to have to mod at all. The intent of moderation is shared with all of you because we trust that the community will see why things are done and that you will exercise best judgement to help us make this board a good place to be. I am both pleased and proud to say that in my opinion you all do a splendid job of it and our moderation activity is consequently extremely low. I would also like to add that if any of you, at any time, wish additional clarification on these things you can reach out to me by PM. I've been in this community a long time, and I like this place a lot, and I want it to continue to be pretty awesome. It is not, and it will never be, our intention to have a board populace kept in the dark and paranoid about what, when, or how a moderation action might happen. That is not fair to any of you. Thank you for reading my many words, and I hope this has made things rather less opaque and mysterious. Edited March 11, 2021 by buglips*the*goblin 9 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGP Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Found another picture. It says I snapped it Feb 28[?]. Anyhow, these two sprues were found separated in the box. One was laying flat, just underneath the booklet. The other was vertical against one side of the box. Looking closer (there are wurds on the underneath sides) they are both from Renendra, made in UK, and the bigger sprue says “FROSTGRAVE GNOLLS”. I’m interested in Frostgrave! Even if some assembly is required. So they moved to the staying here pile. The 2nd sprue is hiding under the first. It has 10 round poker chips(?) bases(?) for the 5 Gnoll bodies in the other sprue. Not sure why there's 5 versus 10, maybe the 10 rounds are stacked in pairs for thickness. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lidless Eye Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 5 hours ago, TGP said: Found another picture. It says I snapped it Feb 28[?]. Anyhow, these two sprues were found separated in the box. One was laying flat, just underneath the booklet. The other was vertical against one side of the box. Looking closer (there are wurds on the underneath sides) they are both from Renendra, made in UK, and the bigger sprue says “FROSTGRAVE GNOLLS”. I’m interested in Frostgrave! Even if some assembly is required. So they moved to the staying here pile. VThe 2nd sprue is hiding under the first. It has 10 round poker chips(?) bases(?) for the 5 Gnoll bodies in the other sprue. Not sure why there's 5 versus 10, maybe the 10 rounds are stacked in pairs for thickness. The Frostgrave boxes come with four pairs of unit sprues with five bodies each, and two pairs of 10 base sprues. Except the "elite" boxes like the Knights and Wizards who are four bodies per frame, two frames per box, and one sprue of bases with the extras snapped off and used in the metal specialists/encounter blisters. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LordDave Posted March 11, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 11, 2021 17 hours ago, Inarah said: Inarah box has landed at home. Box inspector is not amused to find it full of stuff. Hopefully the inspector cat has gotten over this by now. But also hope you found some awesome things in the box for yourself. I had to depackage a few of my adds to close the box. Perhaps in between your duties in the service of the cat, you will have great things to paint. Gorgeous cat by the way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarah Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 17 hours ago, Lidless Eye said: What a pretty cat! Love those ears. 2 hours ago, LordDave said: Gorgeous cat by the way. Thank you, and thank you. She is a pretty girl, with a lovely personality. Both parents are champion show cats and she was the pick of the litter. We also have her sister, who is solid black and much harder to photograph. I saw some fun stuff in the box and plan to go through it with DH this weekend. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowley Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 On 3/11/2021 at 12:14 AM, buglips*the*goblin said: <snip> Thank you for reading my many words, and I hope this has made things rather less opaque and mysterious. This might be worth it's own thread, not buried on page 18 of a random thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) Well, that is a seriously packed box. I'm afraid I made it worse. Below are the items I took, with their replacements below. If you'd like to be surprised by the content, don't look at the pics! Spoiler Pics below Some bases I made/left Bases I took Top: Well loved metal taken / Well loved metal left Unpainted Metal taken / unpainted, or primed, metal left Top: New plastic taken / new plastic left Plastic left behind Random 3d prints and plastic taken Top: Painted plastic taken / painted plastic left Top: A well painted piece I wanted to keep! / Left a piece I painted in return Dice taken, my 8 year old was STOKED Swapped some basing supplies Box arrived FULL / Left even fuller Edited March 14, 2021 by [email protected] clean up 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcktlnt Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 @[email protected] the pictures aren't showing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, pcktlnt said: @[email protected] the pictures aren't showing. Fixed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Fighter Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 hours ago, [email protected] said: Well, that is a seriously packed box. I'm afraid I made it worse. Below are the items I took, with their replacements below. If you'd like to be surprised by the content, don't look at the pics! Reveal hidden contents Pics below Some bases I made/left Bases I took Top: Well loved metal taken / Well loved metal left Unpainted Metal taken / unpainted, or primed, metal left Top: New plastic taken / new plastic left Plastic left behind Random 3d prints and plastic taken Top: Painted plastic taken / painted plastic left Top: A well painted piece I wanted to keep! / Left a piece I painted in return Dice taken, my 8 year old was STOKED Swapped some basing supplies Box arrived FULL / Left even fuller Yay! Box is coming home! GF 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattParody Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just a bunch of the peeps that we grabbed out of the box. hopefully a bright future lies ahead for these pieces. box should be on its way shortly. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat13 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 The box came back today and I couldn't resist going through it immediately. I ended up pulling out a pretty varied assortment but there was a slight trend towards knights. I also went through the task of condensing the box which I found a bit odd. I had no problem whatsoever removing things I had originally added that weren't sparking anyone's interest (some even after three full circuits). Other people's additions that were languishing however was another story entirely. It felt weird removing their additions even though they had been ignored for multiple circuits. In the end I removed quite a bit that didn't seem to be moving and I set it all aside. I think I'll return it to the box after a few circuits and see if it fares any better. I guess I'm really just wondering, what do all you other box starters do with the items that are not moving but are taking up too much space? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarah Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Rat13 said: In the end I removed quite a bit that didn't seem to be moving and I set it all aside. I think I'll return it to the box after a few circuits and see if it fares any better. I guess I'm really just wondering, what do all you other box starters do with the items that are not moving but are taking up too much space? I've taken old metal to Reapercon for the trade-in table, and exchanged it for fresher metal. I've pulled some Bones and plastic out for my local paint-and-take, which is free for kids. Some of the toys and plastic stuff I don't know what to do with, except encourage people to take more of it. I think it helped this round to have a few new participants who had not seen the boxes yet, and who had different items to put into it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattParody Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, Inarah said: I've taken old metal to Reapercon for the trade-in table, and exchanged it for fresher metal. I've pulled some Bones and plastic out for my local paint-and-take, which is free for kids. Some of the toys and plastic stuff I don't know what to do with, except encourage people to take more of it. I think it helped this round to have a few new participants who had not seen the boxes yet, and who had different items to put into it. Oh wow. I really dig that Paint N' Take idea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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