Testors Dullcote Substitute

[Loim]

I use Army Painter Warpaints Antishine on my minis. I brush it on, but it can be pushed through an airbrush too. 

[Fencig]

I'm throwing in the towel on the spray on stuff, sick of " not matte", white flecks, etc.

 

the general consensus from  my reading all your posts is that you can't go wrong with Testors 1160 brush on Dullcote. My one concern is it looks Yellow, does it yellow your models?

 

 

[DocPiske]

I've been using "Mr Hobby Color Fading Prevention Finishing Spray Mr Super Clear  Matt" (B523Y) for about a year now and am very happy with it. It dries very matte, even more so than Dullcote, and the protection seems on par. It is a little more expensive at ~$12 USD for 130g, vs Dullcote at ~$6 USD for 85g. But it seems to be a fine substitute if you cannot find Dullcote. Safety seems about the same, use outside or with good ventilation and a respirator, stay away from open flames while spraying.

[golldan]

I have tried and liked Tamiya Color - Clear Matte spray. It seems to be same size as Testors but more expensive. Just as good. Regardless, I have still found and ordered the Testors Dullcoate (Michigan Toy Soldier Shop).

[Fencig]

been using the Testors dullcoat and brushing it on, seems to work fine, but i've been putting it mon models previously sprayed with Krylon Matt. 

 

Someone warned me that Testors dullcoat can dissolve acrylic paints,  but i looked

 Krylon Matt finish,  according to Krylon is a lacquer-

Testors dullcoat (also a lacquer)

I understand they could have different base solvents

 

Krylon Matt- Composition: Propane, Butane, Toluene And Acetone

 

Testors -HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCES
Chemical Name CAS-No. Wt.%
Isobutanol ,

Ethanol

Propane
Naphtha,

Petroleum,

Hydrotreated Light n-Butane Acetone 1-Pentanol
Amorphous Silica
2-Methylbutanol
2-Propanol 6
Methyl Isobutyl Ketone
2,2,4-Trimethyl-1,

3-Pentanediol Diisobutyrate
Octane
n-Heptane
 

           Anyone had experience with the testors damaging their acrylics?

[Rignes]

Do you mean the Krylon 1311 Matt Finish one or a different product?  The reason I ask is that the 1311 Matt Finish is sold at art stores and doesn't say anything on the label about harming acrylic paint.  I believe its purpose is to spray over canvas paintings.  I've never had that give me issues on acrylic.  

[ManvsMini]

On 8/31/2022 at 1:39 PM, Fencig said:

Krylon Matt- Composition: Propane, Butane, Toluene And Acetone

 

The first two chemicals are just propellants for the spray can. The other two are the solvents for the paint, which are the ones that are most likely to damage your paint if you spray them too close to your model. If sprayed at the proper distance and in the right temperature/humidity, they won't hurt your mini's paint (they're concentration and volatility make them evaporate quickly).

 

 

On 8/31/2022 at 1:39 PM, Fencig said:

           Anyone had experience with the testors damaging their acrylics?

 

I've never used the brush-on (only the aerosol dullcote and had no problems) so I cannot give an experienced comment. Looking at the ingredient list you posted, a lot of those chemicals are just organic solvents; the longer solvent stays on the more chance it has to cause damage. With brush-on, you risk globbing it on which means more time to dry, and thus more time to cause damage. I'd paint thin layers of the Testors and definitely wait until the previous layer was fully dry before doing another one.

 

Just an FYI, I'd also avoid using the Testors brush-on on any mini upon which you have used an oil paint wash. Those chemicals can reactivate oil-based paints, so in this scenario you'd be better off using a water-based acrylic varnish to seal the dried oil paint away, letting it dry/cure and then using the Testors.