Water Effects going Cloudy

[snitchythedog]

On 3/24/2021 at 11:39 AM, Kuroneko said:

 

heat generated during its curing process can really mess up paint jobs

Should only be an issue if it is a deep pour.  The chemical reaction in resin generates more heat the thicker it gets.  Vallejo still water is alright but has issues with shrinking and it does create a noticeable meniscus when dried.  New resin will probably do you well as would using a slow setting resin so you can mix for a while before it sets up. 

I would suggest that this has more to do with materials and moisture getting into the poured piece through the grass clumps that are extending past the surface or through a MDF base.  If you used natural materials like dirt or sand try for baking that at 50 for about an hour to kill off any mould or other materials that are living in it. 

[Pochi]

If you haven't checked it out, Massive Voodoo has a tutorial on water effects and resin. (My biggest tip though is do not superglue the plasticard frame to your base. He said it comes off easily and that was not true for me!)

 

I have tried Woodland Scenics and another brand that I don't remember now (I threw away the bottle). They are fine for puddles but I wouldn't use them for anything more than that as they shrink and cloud up. Mess around with the two part resins. I thought it would be really difficult, and there is a little bit of a learning curve, but I have been so happy with my results, the effort is worth it.

 

I have not had issues with it ruining paint on anything. I have had little painted fish completely submerged as well as terrain and have not seen any problems with those.

 

Now, vegetation I have had some issues with as anything sticking above the water seems to leech the resin up into it making the part closest to the water obviously have resin in it. For bushy bits, it would be easy enough to have it just to the surface and then glue a bit on top of the cured resin to make it look like part of the vegetation was sticking out. This would not work with tall grass however so I still need to figure out how to make that work.

[SotF]

For shallower water, I've never really used the various water effects options.

 

My main, go to for it is to just use the gloss polyeurethane from the craft isle with the acryllic paints. Stuff is a bit thicker than the stuff you normally use when put on, but it, normally, will do a mix of self leveling with very little work and tends to stick to edges rather than flow over unless you brush through it.

 

Used it for things like these...

 

 

 

 

 

They're from a few years back, dinos are even older than the others

[Watchman]

On 3/23/2021 at 1:58 PM, TheOldGuard said:

I've had this happen to me on a piece I did about 4 years ago & it's only recently that I've noticed it.

 

Before:

 

 

 

 

 

 

After:

 

 

 

 

 

I did tint the pools with GW shades & there are bits of leaf/terrain scatter in them so maybe that has reacted with it. This is Vallejo Still Water - shant be using it again!!

 

 

In light of the end result, you can now look at it as the result of stagnant pools of murky water.  Still good looking work.

[Samedi]

A necro, but for science. Unfortunately I have to report, that UV resin can also cloud up. Used Greenstuffworld's UV-Resin, brand new, bought straight from the manufacturer. I suspect I reacted with the rattle can varnish I used before I applied the water effects. But really, no idea what happened (front center, right next to the stone). Painted almost exactly one year ago...

 

 

 

[SotF]

2 hours ago, Samedi said:

A necro, but for science. Unfortunately I have to report, that UV resin can also cloud up. Used Greenstuffworld's UV-Resin, brand new, bought straight from the manufacturer. I suspect I reacted with the rattle can varnish I used before I applied the water effects. But really, no idea what happened (front center, right next to the stone). Painted almost exactly one year ago...

 

 

 

How long after varnishing did you wait before using the water effects? It might be an outgassing situation

[Samedi]

On 2/18/2022 at 11:26 PM, SotF said:

How long after varnishing did you wait before using the water effects? It might be an outgassing situation

 

As a matter of fact I don't really know anymore. It's been a year. As a rule I let the varnish dry at least over night and I never start painting first thing in the morning. So probably anywhere between 18 and 48 hours.

[SotF]

5 hours ago, Samedi said:

 

As a matter of fact I don't really know anymore. It's been a year. As a rule I let the varnish dry at least over night and I never start painting first thing in the morning. So probably anywhere between 18 and 48 hours.

Another thing that tends to cause it is superglue, so if you didn't attach the mini to the base when painting and varnishing, that might be a reason for it as well