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20210530_100113.thumb.jpg.0cdbf37504d49da13d1b10c5d5287735.jpgIt's been a while since I've posted anything to WIP, but I'm trying to get my mojo back.  This particular model has had a few new things applied to it that I was testing, but am not totally happy with.  The main thing is I'm getting paint down and learning as I go, but there's a few questions I have:

 

1.  Ink washes - so, I'm getting a lot of pooling when using them.  I'm using DR inks with a drop of ink, drop of flowaid, and a touch of water.  This leaves it glossy and pooled in places pretty badly.  Tried going to ink and flow aid only so it'd drift more into the recesses, which helped, but still not solving it.  then I tried less ink by dabbing my brush in just a touch into the ink, then utilizing the flowaid to dilute what's on the brush in a little pool.  All in all I'm having difficulty finding what is the right balance.  Any tips here?

 

2.  Oil paints.  I finally went for the James Wappel special here and attempted some oils.  This didn't pan out super well and could be the paint-to-alcohol I used.  My assessment was it was too thick and I didn't know how much to dab off with a sponge.  The skin color worked okay, but needed a big highlight application with acrylics after the oils dried (waited more than a week).  I tried testing washes with this stuff by doing the 'blot test' on a paper towel to see if it spread out, which kind of worked.  However, the effect of the oils spread further into areas I didn't want.  Probably my area of weakness here is not knowing how to clean it up as much.  I think the dilution on the wash is correct, but the cleanup needs some learning.

 

3.  Overall difficulty I'm experiencing right now is trying to do too many things.  This particular model had oils first, then washes, then let it dry because I was mad at it for like 2 weeks and didn't want to touch it.  Came back to it this morning wanting to finish it, but still not thrilled with the outcome.  I think the color balance might be off or my choice of colors isn't strong enough.

 

4.  Rope:what the hell color are you using on rope?  The rope that runs across his chest, on the club, on the barrel - I'm lost in what color to use.  I thought I'll use a Ochre Yellow and then wash over it in a brownish color to bring it down.  It's...yellow.  Not intended.  Then I thought maybe use an ivory and dye it down.  Need some input here.

 

I know this guy isn't "bad", but he's not awful.  I just don't feel like the progress was as strong with him and I'm struggling right now with what to do and how to approach it.  I thought maybe getting a post in here and having people drop some feedback to me might help me get things back together.  Always love the help y'all provide. 

 

I need to get into the swing of things again before Bones 5 delivery - so now more than ever gotta keep that flame burning.

 

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I haven't been painting recently, but I think you could use a linen white base for the rope and the dirty it up with a wash. I've found it works best for me, personally. 

 

Everything else, I've never tried ink washes or oils on a mini, so I'm interested in what more experienced painters say. 

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I often use Inks for stuff like ropes and wood.

My to go Inks are the Scale 75 Inktense range,

 

I usually paint a rope in an off white or Reaper Creamy Ivory  or Yellowe Bone.

Then apply Scale 75 Inktense Chestnut or Wood.

It works fine.

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Inks: use less if it's pooling, and use a dry brush to wick it off before it dries.  If it's too dark, try a lighter ink. 

 

For rope, try a cool brown, something with a greyish rather than yellowish tone.  Add white to produce highlight colors.  Also, the Bone Triad works for that. 

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1.  Inks are tough.  Reaper has a great line of paints (I especially love their TRIAD schemes), but for washes GW seems to do a pretty good job for out of the bottle painting.  If you find it is pooling, try to discard some of the product onto a paper towel before you hit the miniature.  If it still pools, use another brush to dab off the excess so it doesn't dry.

 

2.  Oil paints - I would never.  I used oil paints when I first started painting over 30 years ago, but it just takes a lot of extra work to get it all just right and to think oils you need some pretty toxic stuff.  I would stick to acrylics, but that is just me.

 

3.  I struggle with completion.  It is the bane of my existence.  No model is ever done enough.  Matter of fact, I just had this conversation with my wife, as I am considering painting full time after I retire in a few years but with my completion issues it is hard to do.  Then I look around my office and realize their are literally thousands, if not tens of thousands, of miniatures that I have collected over three decades without even the hint of primer on them.  I have committed to no longer laboring for years on miniatures, but to actually finish them and get them off the shelf of shame.  It is hard, because there is always something more you want to do, something that just feels unfinished.  I would recommend, with each new miniature, you commit yourself to a new technique to learn, but not trying to over do it to a point that it frustrates you to not wanting to paint.  Washes, layering, feathering, overbrushing, dry brushing, blending, wet pallets, dark lining, NMM, metallic, color wheels.... the number of techniques that you can use are endless.  Pick one for each miniature that you tackle, and with the reach of the internet these days you should not be short in the least on research material that you can look at for the "how".  

 

This is a solidly painted miniature, and you should be proud of it!  Last tip I will add is that when I do get frustrated with a miniature, sometimes getting the base done will help to show "completeness".

 

Hope these bits help mate!

 

MK

 

4.  Rope.  I typically use a minimum of three colors for anything, but with rope I will start with a dark brown, then layer it up with the Reaper Cream Triad (or similar colors).  I think your yellow is just fine, but I see what you mean about wanting to brown it down a bit.  You could always go back over the ridges with a quick highlight of a cream color to tone down the yellow?

 

 

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@Inarah, @Glitterwolf, @billeecats all good things!  Thanks for the rope idea on using more of an ivory.  I agree going light and darkening down is the way to go.  I would have to admit something... I'm colorblind.  The colors that lean more one way or another are hard for me to detect.  Strong green, blue, yellow, red are good for me to push into.  Colors that share a lot of hue with others: purple, brown, orange can be tough.  You'll notice a lot of my work stays relatively low in color choices because it will frustrate me figuring out which color I used if i lose track.   I can't color match to save my life.  But, i can see color... just not the way i know many can.  Not complaining, but just harder for me to identify what to blend or push with another color. 

 

@mousekiller (hilarious name) thanks for the huge reply!  Great input and well received.  Like you, and most of this forum, I'm building up my arsenal of minis.  I make it a point to pick something new and try to push it with a new technique.  Not too much, but like a particular area i can focus it to.  Great point and i need to probably slow my desire for growth a bit and hit the basics and build on ONE thing.  

 

I'll take a crack at another mini tomorrow or if i can tonight, and see how it goes.  

 

Thanks for all of your help, folks! 

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