ShadowRaven Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 sounds like a classic ID-10T 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pegazus Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, kristof65 said: <sigh> paraphrasing a conversation I'm currently having: Customer: The printer is not working! Me: What happens when you do X? What happens when you do Y? What happens when you do Z? Customer: the printer is not working!! Me: I understand that, but what happens when you do X? What happens when you do Y? Customer: the printer is not working!!! Me: I get that, but in order to troubleshoot to the problem, I need to know what happens when you do X? Similar frustration energy, albeit an internal customer: Them: We need you to estimate how many hours it will take to incorporate this new design into yours. Me: Okay, what's the new concept? Them: Could need a half inch more space, or you might need to redesign everything. Me: Uh... Okay. I will give you the estimate for a full design. Them: No! The full redesign won't happen. Me: Okaaay. What's the concept you want me to estimate then? Them: We told you. Maybe a half inch or maybe a full redesign. Me: I can't estimate something without a concept. Senior Manager: Darin's right. Engineering can't estimate such a nebulous concept. Them: We'll do a meeting. During the meeting: Them: So. We don't have a concept. So, we need you to estimate things. Me: I can't estimate without a concept. Them: Well, assume that we'd need a half inch of space. Me: Okay. See? I can do that. Them: And also, it might be a full redesign. And you can imagine the sounds of all the heads banging up against any available hard surface. Finally got them to see reason, of a sorts. Will give them the estimate for a full redesign, and they can cross things off as they develop their concept. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristof65 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Pegazus said: Similar frustration energy, albeit an internal customer: Them: We need you to estimate how many hours it will take to incorporate this new design into yours. Me: Okay, what's the new concept? Them: Could need a half inch more space, or you might need to redesign everything. Me: Uh... Okay. I will give you the estimate for a full design. Them: No! The full redesign won't happen. Me: Okaaay. What's the concept you want me to estimate then? Them: We told you. Maybe a half inch or maybe a full redesign. Me: I can't estimate something without a concept. Senior Manager: Darin's right. Engineering can't estimate such a nebulous concept. Them: We'll do a meeting. During the meeting: Them: So. We don't have a concept. So, we need you to estimate things. Me: I can't estimate without a concept. Them: Well, assume that we'd need a half inch of space. Me: Okay. See? I can do that. Them: And also, it might be a full redesign. And you can imagine the sounds of all the heads banging up against any available hard surface. Finally got them to see reason, of a sorts. Will give them the estimate for a full redesign, and they can cross things off as they develop their concept. AAARRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHH! I feel the pain! Turns out I may have given this guy too much credit, in that based on his original statements, I assumed he knew how to test for X. I finally realized he and I may be using the same term for entirely different things. Sent him one of my video explanations. We'll see if that changes anything. 6 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Eyed Monsty Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, kristof65 said: <sigh> paraphrasing a conversation I'm currently having: Customer: The printer is not working! Me: What happens when you do X? What happens when you do Y? What happens when you do Z? Customer: the printer is not working!! Me: I understand that, but what happens when you do X? What happens when you do Y? Customer: the printer is not working!!! Me: I get that, but in order to troubleshoot to the problem, I need to know what happens when you do X? Are you dealing with a Vogon ? GEM 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnwulf Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, Green Eyed Monsty said: Are you dealing with a Vogon ? GEM Doubtful, Vogons are bureaucratic to a fault, they'd follow the instructions exactly to the letter, even if they knew that one of the instructions might cause something bad to happen. (maybe even especially then). And then write some horrible poetry at your expense. 2 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristof65 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, Green Eyed Monsty said: Are you dealing with a Vogon ? GEM Not sure. I might be the Vogon today. Given the way I'm making every cross their T's and dot their i's for troubleshooting today. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Froggy the Great Posted November 21, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted November 21, 2022 I always cross my Is and dot my Ts. 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGP Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, kristof65 said: Not sure. I might be the Vogon today. Given the way I'm making every[one](?) cross their T's and dot their i's for troubleshooting today. Trying to fix/understand sentence. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristof65 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, TGP said: Trying to fix/understand sentence. yeah, that's what I meant. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Eyed Monsty Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Cygnwulf said: Doubtful, Vogons are bureaucratic to a fault, they'd follow the instructions exactly to the letter, even if they knew that one of the instructions might cause something bad to happen. (maybe even especially then). And then write some horrible poetry at your expense. I kept hearing a Vogon proclaiming "Resistance is Futile!" with every repetition of "The printer is not working!" GEM Edited November 22, 2022 by Green Eyed Monsty 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGP Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Froggy the Great said: I always cross my Is and dot my Ts. ī ī ī t t t Sadly, my keypad is only capable of the first half of that. SPÜÜ would officially approve of a t glyph with ümläüts if such a thing were ever created. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezler the Polychromatic Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Froggy the Great said: I always cross my Is and dot my Ts. Best to throw some umlauts in for good measure. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jasper_the_2nd Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, Pezler the Polychromatic said: Best to throw some umlauts in for good measure. Everything is better with umlauts! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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