haldir Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 11 minutes ago, Goddesstio said: Some of the monthly freebies - January in particular is certain - are 3D prints. If you went to ReaperCon, the meet and greet dwarf accountant and the goblin Henchman are also 3D prints. I believe some of the other monthly freebies have been 3D prints but those are the only ones I know for sure. Since I missed the goblin (turned my card in to late), but I did get the gnome, I'll have to take a better look at that one. Gene Van Horne did tell me about Reaper's new 3d printers were fantastic & he wanted to reprint a figure he did for me using their older machines. So I hope for the best for Reaper. Wizard freebie for this month is a 3d print (just saw that on DIscord). 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haldir Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Horror of the Slaughterwaller $18.00 in the Pledge Manager now! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeGKushner Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 12 hours ago, Olaf the Stout said: My issues wouldn’t be with the quality. I get awesome prints on my $600 home printer, so Reaper’s printers are going to beat that. My concern is durability. Bones are damn near unbreakable. 3D printed minis tend to be much more fragile. Well, cost starts to become an issue too. Initially Bones were cheap. Then the detail got good and the price is more than some of the metals. 3d prints that cost more than some of the metals? Going to be a hard sell no? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeGKushner Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 In addition to cost, I would like to know what their recommendations are for handling. For example, Tomb Guardians sells 3d prints out of resin. The material they use is brittle. They stylized their bases to be narrow and thin to minimize material used. A great idea when they were casting in metal and one Reaper did. HOWEVER, when you try to remove those bases so you can rebase it without trying to cover up the material, the figure snaps. Happened when I used a new Xacto blade and happened when I used a fine set of clippers meant for flush clipping. The material just wasn't strong enough to support the break around it. And while I'm not big on converting and Reaper's bases have been much better since going to the Bones material, I know others do conert so knowing the durability and punishment that this material can withstand would be good. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Gnome Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 This comes as quite the surprise and I would have liked to have known this before pledging however the less Reaper has to rely on importing from China, the happier I will be. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2ED Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I'm fully invested in whatever Reaper wants to do. I'm pretty much for trying this new method and seeing what happens. I get the feelings around unexpected changes people are having. Totally understandable. It also matters a lot on what people are purchasing these for: gaming, display, competition, etc. A big thing of Reaper models is their durability. My thoughts on this are if these are equal or better in durability, sharpness of cast, less cleaning required, and scale is consistent, then I'm willing to try it. I also see some of the hesitation around those who can already print on their own. Maybe a good trade off could be, offer the stl to KS bakers who want it for a handful of the models? At least that would add some value to the printing. I see the risks in it, too as that could affect retail sales for reaper, but also could be a good test of that is a win for KS folks (much like this print test may be). My input is somewhat bias because I'm a display guy, and don't handle these a ton. For a table top crew, I can see exactly why durability is critical. I really like seeing companies trying something new and different, and whereas I'm for getting some cool, new types of molds/prints, I would say the best place would be the retail end not a KS. If stated up front with good expectations given, it gives backers more options and understanding. I'm for it and can't wait to see the prints and give them a try. Reaper should just make sure the change supports the vast majority before making the change to ensure success for those invested. Good luck on the decision and outcome. I'll be ready and happy to receive that big a$$ box either way. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrift Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Grumpy Gnome said: This comes as quite the surprise and I would have liked to have known this before pledging however the less Reaper has to rely on importing from China, the happier I will be. This is also where I’m at. I wanted Bones 6 to be done entirely in house. For years they’ve talked about doing more in house. I’m thrilled. Attached are base-coated, and ink washed versions of the goblin henchman and gnome accountant from ReaperCom. The quality of their 3D printing is phenomenal and this material reminds me entirely of Bones Black. 8 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeGKushner Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 January is printed? "This amazing miniature is injected in our high-quality Bones USA material. "Belevos, Traveling Wizard" is the perfect miniature to represent a wizard, cleric, or sorcerer, or just paint for an evening of fun." So... injected may mean different things or are we talking about a different miniature? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf the Stout Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, JoeGKushner said: Well, cost starts to become an issue too. Initially Bones were cheap. Then the detail got good and the price is more than some of the metals. 3d prints that cost more than some of the metals? Going to be a hard sell no? Totally agree. For me, Bones were about being cheap, but durable. If they don’t hit those qualities any more, I’m not sure what their appeal to me would be. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Khan Artist Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I don't mind the big chonky pieces in original Bonesium. I think the Egyptian ruins will translate well into this medium, and most other terrain, too. I don't care for it as a medium for figs--it doesn't handle detail well enough and is too bendy. I'd guess this is to keep cost down 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarah Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 12 minutes ago, JoeGKushner said: January is printed? "This amazing miniature is injected in our high-quality Bones USA material. "Belevos, Traveling Wizard" is the perfect miniature to represent a wizard, cleric, or sorcerer, or just paint for an evening of fun." So... injected may mean different things or are we talking about a different miniature? Thats been the standard text on the freebie of the month page since forever. Someone forgot to change it. If you saw the promo they did on FB or the main page of the company website it says "printed": Edited January 21 by Inarah 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddesstio Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 so I'll repost here my discord tests: Dwarf, unpainted. You can see the detail in the feather down to the little lines, and his little combover. I put pressure on him in various points, and while I think if I tried hard I could break him at the legs, the visor does not bend, the book does not bend, and he is pretty durable. I threw him against the wall, and he had no damage. I then accidentally stepped on him when going to get the dragon bust, and he was also fine, surprisingly. The goblin: A note that both the dwarf and goblin came with some small support strings that were easily removed. There's detail on the wood grain, his fingers under the chest, even the rope around the chest. Unlike the dwarf, he does NOT really bend at the legs, even when I apply some pretty good pressure. Very solid feeling. I threw him at the wall, and he was unphased. (I did not step on him). I also, for the sake of science, got out my VIP Dragon Bust. I don't think this was cast by Reaper, but it's mostly solid, except the horns. When I squeezed them inward, they had some give. And, for the sake of science, I threw him against the wall. Oops. I don't think he's going to be the standard though. So the little minis I have so far, they are good quality and durable. 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrift Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Doesn’t Reaper have an employee who was specifically hired to handle communications? Because these types of things 100% fall in the realm of “we should be over-communicating” on this. And I’m not talking about a random comment on discord or twitch. I’m talking about official product change and product releases either through their website or an official company-based channel. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeGKushner Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 23 minutes ago, Inarah said: Thats been the standard text on the freebie of the month page since forever. Someone forgot to change it. If you saw the promo they did on FB or the main page of the company website it says "printed": Good catch. When you mentioned it, I remember actually talking about it at the time they advertised it over on FB. Completely forgot about that snippet of typed text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auberon Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I didn't back Bones 6 and haven't been following, so I ended up just stumbling onto this conversation. I made a metal order this month, but since the freebie wasn't metal I just tossed it somewhere without even looking at it. It took a few minutes to figure out where it ended up but once I found it, sure enough it was 3D printed. I can say that the details are crisp and the little voxel waves are almost imperceptible to the naked eye. Whatever they are using is a step above my SM4K, but as I haven't sprung for an 8K yet I can't compare to the top consumer models. His upraised arm is stiff with no give. With enough force it's going to break rather than bend. The arm is thick enough it won't be a problem, but thin weapons are likely another matter. Also, without any info it's impossible to know how well the material will age. Obviously it won't get lead rot, but if I leave him unpainted and unsealed for a decade will he get brittle? 🤔 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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