Bones 6 Enthusiasm and Commentary

[Minsky07]

Am I the only one thinking that Raven with Bone is potentially Fan Favorites expansion? Or would that one not receive a visual representation?

[ksbsnowowl]

1 hour ago, Minsky07 said:

Am I the only one thinking that Raven with Bone is potentially Fan Favorites expansion? Or would that one not receive a visual representation?

There are enough icons for 5 expansions. Bones V had 7 expansions, including Chronoscope and Fan Favorites. I read into it that they aren’t planning to do Chronoscope, and they just don’t have an icon badge for Fan Favorites (since it never has a cohesive theme anyway).

[Minsky07]

29 minutes ago, ksbsnowowl said:

There are enough icons for 5 expansions. Bones V had 7 expansions, including Chronoscope and Fan Favorites. I read into it that they aren’t planning to do Chronoscope, and they just don’t have an icon badge for Fan Favorites (since it never has a cohesive theme anyway).

That is definitely a possibility.
On the other hand, there is usually no cohesive theme for core set or add ons. 
Or not all icon badges have been presented? I do not recall exact wording from Reaper Live.

[Corsair]

Well if they don't make a Chronoscope expansion, here's hoping they have been listening and will bring out some of the encounter type sets for sci-fi.

[DragonWyrm]

11 hours ago, ksbsnowowl said:

These ‘badges’ are emblems for the various parts of the KS. The center one is for the Core Set. Five of the others are expansions, and one (probably the scales and coins) is for add-ons.

 

 

Looks like those begging for an Egyptian expansion may get their wish. The bottom left emblem is a scarab in a cartouche-like background. The unicorn with the insect wings is from an old Reaper magazine/catalog from the early/mid-90’s, and I’m guessing that will be indicative of the Faerie expansion they’ve been hinting at. 

Agreed. From the badges I predict:

• Scarab: Egyptians or Egyptian undead faction from dark heaven
• Crow: undead or necromancer faction. Occidental style due to crown type.
• The coins and scale: it's the dwarves faction that was teased. Or a merchant town (Venice?)
• Winged unicorn: Faeries! Whimsical and childish!
• Demon head: demons (like the demon host from bones V) or their worshippers (anti paladins, cultists, sacrifices)
• Gryphon: due to goblet and chicken leg it is eating: tavern. Sitting people, drunkards and some monsters. 

 

Edited March 12, 2022 by DragonWyrm

[izzylobo]

15 minutes ago, DragonWyrm said:

Agreed. From the badges I predict:

• Scarab: Egyptians or Egyptian undead faction from dark heaven
• Crow: undead or necromancer faction. Occidental style due to crown type.
• The coins and scale: it's the dwarves faction that was teased. Or a merchant town (Venice?)
• Winged unicorn: Faeries! Whimsical and childish!
• Demon head: demons (like the demon host from bones V) or their worshippers (anti paladins, cultists, sacrifices)
• Gryphon: due to goblet and chicken leg it is eating: tavern. Sitting people, drunkards and some monsters. 

 

Except that we know that -

 

1 - there are 5 expansions settled (stated explicitly on Reaper Tonight yesterday)

2 - the center icon is for the whole shebang, and the core set.

3 - one of the icons is for add-ons, rather than an expansion.

 

With that being said, my guesstimates -

• Scarab - Egyptians or the Nefsokar faction from Warlord (which might suggest a return for Warlord as a going concern? Maybe?)
• Pegacorn - as others have noted, most likely a trip to the realms of the Fae
• Coins and Scale - Others have suggested this is the icon for the add-ons, and I tend to agree. Unlike the others, it's semi-generic - it's sort of fantasy in its heraldry, but open enough that Chronoscope add-ons could fit in without trouble.
• Gryphon - Alternately, this is the add-ons, representing "side stories" told in the Green Gryphon - in which case the coins-and-scale is something else entirely. If it isn't, Then I suspect that, yes, it's an expansion directly tied to the Green Gryphon itself (as opposed to just the stories told within it, which is apparently a running theme with the core stretch goals).
• Crow - This could well be something tucked with necromancy - or royalty (or both!) Given the idea of storylines that seem to be in evidence this time around (witness the fluff/background text for some of the stretch goals we've seen so far - something Ron says will be present with all of them), it's entirely possible that there's some kind of a story going on with some of these expansions (as opposed to simply a theme).
• Demon Head - I think this is the icon for this KS's Dungeon Dweller expansion, for one simple reason - when I saw it, the absolute first thing I thought of (as an Old School gamer), was this smiling fellow -

Spoiler

 

[YronimosW]

I bet it's going to be tough to predict very much from those icons:  it sounds like the expansions and stretch-goals are going to be built up like stories, like adventures and side-quests, and if the past Kickstarters are anything to go by (and of course they aren't necessarily so!), the core set will get periodic reveals, while the expansions will be broken up into Part I, Part II, Part III, and so on, which in story terms would be where the story starts, and then later bits of it, which won't necessarily end up where the story started.  It all fits in logically with the way past Kickstarters worked, actually, with the graphics of adventure maps with each step on the map moving from one part of a dungeon adventure to another, an all that.  In other words, the icons might represent a general idea that will make more sense after the entire expansion is fully revealed, rather than an overarching theme that makes sense from the beginning.

 

The green griffon would correspond with a Green Griffon Inn expansion that has been mentioned by name in various places, which sounds like it at least starts in a tavern or inn.  That might suggest an entire expansion built around the inn itself - maybe tavern/inn dungeon dressing, tavern keepers, tavern patrons, and so on - a townsfolk and dungeon-dressing thing.  Then again, Reaper has done a lot of that sort of thing before - will they necessarily do the same thing again?  Might we instead see an expansion that tells a story about the inn, and what is found in a dungeon beneath it, for example - the traditional starter-adventure cliche of "fight the rats in the cellar" job that turns into a more interesting and complicated adventure than it seemed?  If so, that expansion might look more like the "Dungeon Dwellers" expansion from the previous Kickstarter, which I've described more than once as "a complete low-level adventure in a box!"

 

The scale and coins might be anything, but I can't help noting that it doesn't seem far off from the sort of thing that might go with this preview of "Dwarven Coins by Jason Wiebe":

https://forum.reapermini.com/uploads/monthly_2022_01/image.png.408c2ff5e58509c598d76965eea61a70.png

That is certainly something we've never seen before from Reaper!  I'm not sure where else it might fit into the Kickstarter, really, so maybe an expansion dedicated to fantasy coins, or maybe to a collection of such odds-and-ends that aren't quite traditional miniatures (maybe dice, dice towers, paintbrush holders...?)  Will these coins end up as part of an expansion full of Dwarven coins, or a Dwarf-themed expansion that includes Dwarven coins, or a coin-themed expansion that includes Dwarf coins but might also include other kinds of fantasy coins too?  It's tough to predict! 🙂

 

We do see the central icon - which seems to be the Core Set icon - in a couple previews showing what the story structure looks like:

https://forum.reapermini.com/uploads/monthly_2022_03/FC4F54BF-7F76-454B-BC13-0FE4C4D11C1C.thumb.png.e226ea47db0c1d65c37ab447332de5f9.png

https://forum.reapermini.com/uploads/monthly_2022_03/image.png.8c32fe15e89c136fd0630b9f0a89d62e.png

https://forum.reapermini.com/uploads/monthly_2022_03/A83DF008-70BA-41E8-82B1-B4E5EA8BCEFC.thumb.png.fda4cee5a6149c3aaf6d8cfffd8b1ec7.png

 

Nothing there is necessarily set in stone, but what seems to be a glimpse of the first part of the core set seems, like in past Kickstarters, non-indicative of any particular theme or story, but then what seems to be a couple stretch-goals for the core set kick in, and it sounds like there's something of a story, after all... that might hint at what we might see from the expansions, as well, only on a smaller scale, and perhaps in the form of "side-quests" to the core set, or at least themed "dungeons" areas adjacent to the core set....

 

The snippets of text in those screenshots of the guards and dwarves might hint quite a lot at what the expansions and add-ons might look like.  For example, it's hard to read, but the guards' text seems to mention a "ghostly" killer/robber haunting a Barrowgate River district, which is being referred to as a wraith.... that might indeed go well with the mausoleum as an undead-themed Expansion that might match the raven-with-bone icon, but seems equally suited for an Encounter of some sort, which might not even have an icon....  On the other hand, the Dwarves' text refer to the capture of a Dark Elf spy who is working with an invading force of Dark Elves and Troglodytes, which sounds a bit more solidly like the subject of a Darkreach-themed expansion to me (and one that doesn't seem to have a corresponding icon yet, that we've seen!)  Then again, both of these snippets of text might simply be hinting at what might be revealed as stretch-goals for the core set itself, in which case the "Mr. Bones" like character in the icon might be the "wraith" mentioned in the guards' text!   Again, difficult to say, but that last possibility might suggest the sort of round-about way that the meaning of the icons might not necessarily make sense, until the story develops!

 

Which I think promises to be a lot of fun - I have a feeling I'll enjoy the storytelling format of this Kickstarter 🙂

 

Anyway, that's just my initial interpretation of what we might see from the icons - I haven't been following the weekly videos to hear what Reaper has had to say, maybe they've revealed some hints that put a whole other spin on things than this!

 

 

One thing does seem evident to me:  it's sounding like Reaper is putting a LOT of world-building into this Kickstarter, which seems to match up remarkably with what we saw from the Brinewind pirate-themed items last year, which included maps, splatbooks, and so on - is is possible Reaper have actually got a full-scale campaign setting in the works?  VERY INTERESTING!  🙂

 

Edited March 12, 2022 by YronimosW

[Goddesstio]

On one of the lives, they've previewed a mausoleum that they said was part of an expansion. Since there's a raven with a bone, I'm willing to bet that's the undead expansion. Didn't consider the coins as dwarven though... Could be the coins are dwarven and the griffin is for the add ons, but I'm still sticking by my initial guesses.

[Minsky07]

4 hours ago, Goddesstio said:

On one of the lives, they've previewed a mausoleum that they said was part of an expansion. Since there's a raven with a bone, I'm willing to bet that's the undead expansion. Didn't consider the coins as dwarven though... Could be the coins are dwarven and the griffin is for the add ons, but I'm still sticking by my initial guesses.

I forgot about the coins. But I think those would me more of an add on than anything else. Especially that it would be so much easier for people wanting more of those to simply select such an addon multiple times.
Again though, clearly just speculation.

[Divaricatus]

3 hours ago, Minsky07 said:

I forgot about the coins. But I think those would me more of an add on than anything else. Especially that it would be so much easier for people wanting more of those to simply select such an addon multiple times.
Again though, clearly just speculation.

Well, the story core is a tavern. So you gotta pay with something, right? That’s where the coins come in 😁

[Reaper_Jon]

Here is a better res. version of it! 

[kristof65]

So are those icons going to be available as decals? 

[Inarah]

2 hours ago, kristof65 said:

So are those icons going to be available as decals? 

 

That was a big "maybe, we don't know yet" from Ron.  There were a lot of calls in chat to make them patches or decals, as they did with factions for the last RVE.  They'd also make good art for t-shirts, IMO. 

 

[Chaoswolf]

I would be likely to buy them in any of the three formats (patch/sticker/t shirt).

[kristof65]

I feel I should clarify that I was asking for waterslide decals for putting on the shields and cloaks of my Bone's minis. 

But patches would be cool, too.