Models for Demos

[Cerridwyn1st]

I use nefsokar Khamsin Herdsmen, dremel off the polearms, bend the arms, drop on a quivr and a bow frm the DH wepaons packs, Since their stat cards they are not undead, doing the same to mummies would be wrong . . . . Stats for Khamsin Rangers

I might have to do something similiar to get some Crusder archers.

I've been using Anhurian Bowmen, painted to match my Crusaders. They'll do until the "real thing" comes out.

[Reaperbryan]

Great idea Bryan! I may have to try that...

 

Now the big question. Will such conversions be legal per the latest Reaper Official Tournament rules clarifications? They are conversions, but they are still Khamsin models.

As Warlord models converted with Reaper bits, they would always be legal.

[dewen]

I use nefsokar Khamsin Herdsmen, dremel off the polearms, bend the arms, drop on a quivr and a bow frm the DH wepaons packs, Since their stat cards they are not undead, doing the same to mummies would be wrong . . . . Stats for Khamsin Rangers

Speaking of the Rangers, did the stats or point value change from the OLE version? Based upon my playing experience, stats for other range models, and the generic stats for a Ranger, their points seem a bit high. I am patiently awaiting my cards that I sent away for.

[Cerridwyn1st]

Just currious, what do the Powers That Be at Reaper consider an "adequate" demo force for Warlord?  How many models, how many factions?

*ahem* back on topic.

 

I just pulled out my troops for my next few events.

We are using one leader model, three ranged(archer/crossbowmen) and three fighters(axe/sword/stick) grunts.

 

I've got Reven, 2 Crusaders, 2 Necropolis, Dwarves, Nefsokar, and Overlord (mostly proxies in Overlords) factions ready to go.

 

I have enough for 8 players even though I do prefer to keep it at 4-6. We'll be running a Lost Sword game. (like the mummy king/pyramid artifact recovery from the summer cons)

Cheryl:

 

This is the Sword of Kings scenario, changed for Nefsokar, correct? AO has a 750pt Fighting Company, all others have 500pts, first one to take the sword from the AO's troup and get it off the board is the winner.

[ladystorm]

Free Fall wrote the scenario, the name has had a few changes, but yeah that is kind of the basic plan story wise.

 

Point wise, I couldn't tell you right now. I usually let the other members of my demo team help and that is what they are doing while I finish the painting.

[Cerridwyn1st]

Free Fall wrote the scenario, the name has had a few changes, but yeah that is kind of the basic plan story wise.

 

Point wise, I couldn't tell you right now.  I usually let the other members of my demo team help and that is what they are doing while I finish the painting. 

Yeah, several of us were at GenCon until 10pm Wed. night helping Freefall pull minis for the different scenarios. In the big convention demos, I don't think we are as concerned with point values as with having a equal numbers of the same kinds of troups - say, Leadership, Spellcaster, 6 Fighters, 2 Archers.

 

This makes it a lot easier to reset at the end of a demo, but it can be hard on the players, since six Skellies are NOT equal to six Crusaders.

 

Since I'll only run a scenario once and then pack everything up, I tend to plan out my stuff points-wise at home, print the sheets and use those in the damo. Going by points instead of numbers of figs seems to make for more balanced groups for the players.

 

Or if I am going pretty much with numbers, I'll give the factions with weaker grunts a couple extra. For example, if Crusaders and Reven have six grunts, Necropolis and Elves will have eight.

 

Tell me if you've noticed this. The players seem to have more fun if there is a scenario, not just throw the troups out there, last man standing wins. With a scenario, they focus on the objective, not on killing each other off. If the focus is on killing off the other guys, there is usually someone who gets wiped out early, something that isn't a lot of fun for the players. There is always some clown who stays out of the fight and cleans up the leftovers. It ends up with only one guy - the one who held back - actually having fun, while the rest just get slaughtered.

[airhead]

What the frog said. Let not the Dragons rain down on you. or is that reign?

 

Stat cards for dragons?

Especially the CD sized ones. Marthrangle would have to be on an amazingly large base? Old LP?

[FreeFall]

Cerridwyn, we pulled figs Weds. at the hall, then I went back tot he hotel and balanced them. They came out to roughly 700 points each because the Dwarven Warlord was so expensive. The AO force was closer to 900.

 

I just ran the same scenario with 4 players at 500 points vs my force of 700 and it was perfect. They managed to kill me off, but it was a challenge. Another great equalizer was that I was running Ashkrypt as the only spell caster. It added another dimension to the game and something else for players to worry about. At least after that first firestorm they worried.

[ladystorm]

Stat cards for dragons?

Especially the CD sized ones. Marthrangle would have to be on an amazingly large base?

Marthrangul fits on a CD.

that is the legal base of all dragons in Warlord.

 

at present only the generic data card for dragons is available.

 

cher

[Cerridwyn1st]

Cerridwyn, we pulled figs Weds. at the hall, then I went back tot he hotel and balanced them.  They came out to roughly 700 points each because the Dwarven Warlord was so expensive.  The AO force was closer to 900.

 

I just ran the same scenario with 4 players at 500 points vs my force of 700 and it was perfect.  They managed to kill me off, but it was a challenge.  Another great equalizer was that I was running Ashkrypt as the only spell caster.  It added another dimension to the game and something else for players to worry about.  At least after that first firestorm they worried. 

Boy, Freefall, that was a late night for you. And we were back the next morning by 9:15 for a meeting. You know those jerks at Steak and Shake shorted me cup of chili?

 

Thanks for the input, . So it was roughly 700pt player troups versus a 900pt GM troup? I love a scenario that you can retool for a broad array of uses. The Lost Sword seems to be very scalable.

 

It might be good for the Book Release tournament I'll be running. It will be a three round elimination tournament. The winner being the swordbearer would give a clear objective for who would advance to the next round.

 

I kind of need to advance two people per round so I'll have four in the last session. (Two smaller 3 - 4 man rounds, then a final). What would you do to have two winners for the scenario?

 

Since you have experience running tournaments at conventions, any ideas would be appreciated.

 

You sent me one scenario about mercs running through a graveyard. I modified it, making stone caerns instead of gravestones, and called it BOHICA Hill. I think I mentioned this idea to you before and it's worked pretty well.

 

I've used basically the same set up for anything from 500 to 1,000 points for the players, varying the strength of the opposition accordingly.

[FreeFall]

The Sword of Kings scenario was a modification of that graveyard scenario, minus the grave robbing aspect. It's much easier to follow as a demo scenario number now. :-)