Super Wash Paints by Reaper Miniatures Preview

[JoeGKushner]

2 hours ago, Goddesstio said:

I honestly don't have much experience with speed paints, contrast paints, or anything similar, so definitely waiting for more tests before I start muddling around with them.

 

Well, before ordering is one thing but if you already own them, the best way to learn how they work in particular is to get cracking.

 

Heck, order some cheap Bones miniatures and see how they work or bust out some old metal figures that needs to just be done.

[corbie]

I've tried messing around with three (magenta, black, brown) so far and not getting results much different than standard Reaper paints. For reference, I've been treating them like I do Contrast/Speed Paints (i.e., straight out of the bottle with a wet brush onto primed material). I might save the rest for when we have more of a use guide.

[JoeGKushner]

1 hour ago, corbie said:

I've tried messing around with three (magenta, black, brown) so far and not getting results much different than standard Reaper paints. For reference, I've been treating them like I do Contrast/Speed Paints (i.e., straight out of the bottle with a wet brush onto primed material). I might save the rest for when we have more of a use guide.

 

I found a zenithal highlight gives them more pop.  

 

They're also very... water phobic? in that they will go from 'super' wash to wash with very small amounts of water.

[OneBoot]

Disclaimer: I've never used a contrast/speed paint before, so I have nothing to compare it to. 

 

I've played with them some (over a pale gray basecoat), and they're...very odd. Like an interesting cross between a Reaper Liner, Clear, and Wash.

 

Coverage is on the thin side, like a Clear, and the blue I tried mixing with a silver metallic behaved sort of like a Clear, though the result was much less shiny. The feel of it on the brush and as I'm painting with it feels like a Liner, though it certainly doesn't cover like one. Lastly, it's definitely thinner in the bottle than most of Reaper's other paints, but still thicker than what I'd personally call a wash. 

 

After trying out all of them, I'm trying to figure out what I would use them for since I have other "tools" in my metaphorical painting toolkit that do what these do, except better. They're not a wash (PLEASE don't call them washes), they perform weaker than the Clears in every test I've done comparing the two (except vibrancy; Liners generally tend to be fairly dark), and the coverage is a bit iffy. 

 

I'll continue tinkering with them and post further thoughts here. 

 

Huzzah! 

--OneBoot 🙂

[JoeGKushner]

3 hours ago, OneBoot said:

 

 

After trying out all of them, I'm trying to figure out what I would use them for since I have other "tools" in my metaphorical painting toolkit that do what these do, except better. They're not a wash (PLEASE don't call them washes), they perform weaker than the Clears in every test I've done comparing the two (except vibrancy; Liners generally tend to be fairly dark), and the coverage is a bit iffy. 

 

 

This is kind of where i'm at.

 

If they're not meant to be 'contrast' paints, and they don't necessarily perform like them in many instances, what are they?

 

Anne's video was interesting and I was glad to see her using zenithal highlighting (all the kids be calling it slap chop these days) to get more pop out of it.

[Adrift]

I basecoated some Kuo-toa at ReaperCon and after drying, applied two different shades of these over the basecoats. They worked well enough and I just fleshed out some details to enhance them. The matte varnish def caused paint to come off the pair of tan ones, but not the blue-gray ones. I plan to keep playing with them to bust through monster minis for my dnd game but probably won’t use them on anything I want to make really special. 

[Guindyloo]

23 hours ago, JoeGKushner said:

Anne's video was interesting and I was glad to see her using zenithal highlighting (all the kids be calling it slap chop these days) to get more pop out of it.

 

This was brought up on the discord and I corrected it there so I want to correct it here as well - slapchop is NOT zenithal highlighting.

 

Zenithal highlighting is priming in black, then picking a single direction for the lighting on the model to be coming from and hitting that with a white primer. This can be done via airbrush or spray can or even drybrushing. 

 

Slapchop is priming in black, then drybrushing ALL of the raised surfaces, no matter the direction of the light, with a grey paint to serve as an undercoating of midtone, followed by a drybrushing of white for the highlights, then painting with contrast paints or any other transparent colours. It's a method specifically designed for speedpainting armies as quickly as possible but still with a nice result. But it is not just about the priming, slapchop is the entire method - prime, then grey drybrush, then white drybrush, then transparent colour on top. 

Muddying the waters, some people have taken to combining the priming/grey drybrush steps with a zenithal prime to improve the final result (see Ninjon's Slapchop 2.0)

 

Slapchop is not really anything new - the previous fad term for underpainting in black & white followed by transparent colour was "sketch style" and both are a new term for the centuries old classical painting technique called grisaille which is a monochromatic technique that can be used alone or as an underpainting followed by transparent mediums to add colour.

 

No matter what these things are called, if they help someone with their painting, that's a great thing, but I think it's important to understand what terms refer to in their entirety.

[JoeGKushner]

On 9/25/2022 at 8:46 PM, tpugmire said:

I’d like to try these out without getting the entire set. If there was an option to get singles, I’d be in. 

If you check the site, they are available as singles now